From fbissey at slingshot.co.nz Mon Jul 7 23:19:33 2008 From: fbissey at slingshot.co.nz (=?iso-8859-1?q?Fran=E7ois_Bissey?=) Date: Mon Jul 7 23:19:40 2008 Subject: [plug] Gentoo 2008.0 Message-ID: <200807072319.33413.fbissey@slingshot.co.nz> Hi, Gentoo has finally an updated install medium: 2008.0 I know John wanted to try Gentoo - now is the time, if you are not afraid of compiling this is for you. http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/where.xml I'll be on baby duty for the forseeable future so no meeting for me this month. Francois From johney at mre.co.nz Sat Jul 12 10:36:08 2008 From: johney at mre.co.nz (johney) Date: Sat Jul 12 10:36:13 2008 Subject: [plug] Gentoo 2008.0 In-Reply-To: <200807072319.33413.fbissey@slingshot.co.nz> References: <200807072319.33413.fbissey@slingshot.co.nz> Message-ID: <1215815768.6239.17.camel@localhost> oh awesome, thanks, On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 23:19 +1200, Fran?ois Bissey wrote: > Hi, > > Gentoo has finally an updated install medium: 2008.0 > I know John wanted to try Gentoo - now is the time, > if you are not afraid of compiling this is for you. > > http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/where.xml > > I'll be on baby duty for the forseeable future so > no meeting for me this month. > > Francois > > _______________________________________________ > plug mailing list, plug@linux.net.nz > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug From thegeek at mangee.net.nz Wed Jul 23 21:37:42 2008 From: thegeek at mangee.net.nz (Jo Booth) Date: Wed Jul 23 21:41:52 2008 Subject: [plug] Re: [wellylug] Richard Stallman visit to wellington In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <15A6C3B1-C257-4C7A-93C6-1B6C8E3F88A4@mangee.net.nz> Hey, some updated details from UP: On 23/07/2008, at 13:05 , Peter Lambrechtsen wrote: > I am organising Richard Stallman's (rms) visit to Wellington, thought > I would make the Wellylug what is tentatively booked thus far. > ---- Wednesday 13 Aug - Arrive Wellington at ~11:30 (flight to be confirmed) - Present at GGG - (www.up.org.nz/gadgets-games-geeks-08/) from 3pm - 5:30 - RSVP at http://UP.org.nz/Richard-Stallman-at-GGG - Venue is the L2 Council Chambers - Wellington Town Hall (yes it is the mayoral suite) We've asked Richard to talk on the topic "Copyright vs Community in the Age of Computer Networks" as per the abstract: > Copyright developed in the age of the printing press, and was > designed to fit with the system of centralized copying imposed by > the printing press. But the copyright system does not fit well > with computer networks, and only draconian punishments can enforce it. > > The global corporations that profit from copyright are lobbying for > draconian punishments, and to increase their copyright powers, > while suppressing public access to technology. But if we seriously > hope to serve the only legitimate purpose of copyright--to promote > progress, for the benefit of the public--then we must make > changes in the other direction. Will be of interest to anyone creating or working with digital content, working with policy or wanting to take part in a lively discussion on copyright (and copyleft) - as well as a chance to meet and talk with Richard himself. We're quickly filling up for GGG, so if you may get no places left for the main GGG event at UP.org.nz - but you can RSVP direct at If you have objections to filling in your details, email me or something (we only need something for the name badge and an email address so you can change your details), and I'll make sure you have a block of seats reserved, and some refreshments for you (No Badge, No Beer) If you can be there from about 14:30 onwards we'll get straight into it at 15:00 to give you plenty of time to talk before being invaded by the GGG masses. Feel free to pass on the details to your colleagues, work-mates, fellow-FSUGs and the like. We've got 150+ seats to fill - so call in sick that afternoon ;) Awesome to have RMS along, and he may stay for the GGG evening, if you need to talk further. Jo Booth Network Facilitator Website, Communications & Membership Unlimited Potential - ICT Professionals' Network http://UP.org.nz +64 21 526684 +64 4 802 3586 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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"Copyright vs Community in? the Age of Computer Networks" as per the abstract: > Copyright developed in the age of the printing press, and was? > designed to fit with the system of centralized copying imposed by? > the printing press.? But the copyright system does not fit well? > with computer networks, and only draconian punishments can enforce it. > > The global corporations that profit from copyright are lobbying for? > draconian punishments, and to increase their copyright powers,? > while suppressing public access to technology.? But if we seriously? > hope to serve the only legitimate purpose of copyright--to promote? > progress, for the benefit of the? ? public--then we must make? > changes in the other direction. Will be of interest to anyone creating or working with digital? content, working with policy or wanting to take part in a lively? discussion on copyright (and copyleft) - as well as a chance to meet? and talk with Richard himself. We're quickly filling up for GGG, so if you may get no places left? for the main GGG event at UP.org.nz - but you can RSVP direct at If you have objections to filling in your details, email me or? something (we only need something for the name badge and an email? address so you can change your details), and I'll make sure you have? a block of seats reserved, and some refreshments for you (No Badge,? No Beer)? If you can be there from about 14:30 onwards we'll get? straight into it at 15:00 to give you plenty of time to talk before? being invaded by the GGG masses. Feel free to pass on the details to your colleagues, work-mates,? fellow-FSUGs and the like. We've got 150+ seats to fill - so call in? sick that afternoon ;) Awesome to have RMS along, and he may stay for the GGG evening, if? you need to talk further. Jo Booth Network Facilitator Website, Communications & Membership Unlimited Potential - ICT Professionals' Network http://UP.org.nz +64 21 526684 +64 4 802 3586 Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com From johney at mre.co.nz Sat Jul 26 10:55:56 2008 From: johney at mre.co.nz (johney) Date: Sat Jul 26 10:56:04 2008 Subject: [plug] Re: [wellylug] Richard Stallman visit to wellington In-Reply-To: <131478.50587.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <131478.50587.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1217026556.6385.13.camel@localhost> OK I've got to go to this (it's like a religious thing almost) I can drive some people down! On Wed, 2008-07-23 at 19:56 -0700, Waylon Robertson wrote: > okay, anyone going to this event? anyone able to take me to it, and back? > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Jo Booth > To: Wellington Linux Users Group > Cc: jo-ggg-RMS@UP.org.nz; Palmerston North Linux Users Group > Sent: Wednesday, 23 July, 2008 9:37:42 PM > Subject: [plug] Re: [wellylug] Richard Stallman visit to wellington > > Hey, some updated details from UP: > > On 23/07/2008, at 13:05 , Peter Lambrechtsen wrote: > > I am organising Richard Stallman's (rms) visit to Wellington, thought > > I would make the Wellylug what is tentatively booked thus far. > > > ---- > Wednesday 13 Aug > - Arrive Wellington at ~11:30 (flight to be confirmed) > - Present at GGG - (www.up.org.nz/gadgets-games-geeks-08/) from 3pm - > 5:30 > - RSVP at http://UP.org.nz/Richard-Stallman-at-GGG > - Venue is the L2 Council Chambers - Wellington Town Hall (yes it is > the mayoral suite) > > We've asked Richard to talk on the topic "Copyright vs Community in > the Age of Computer Networks" as per the abstract: > > Copyright developed in the age of the printing press, and was > > designed to fit with the system of centralized copying imposed by > > the printing press. But the copyright system does not fit well > > with computer networks, and only draconian punishments can enforce it. > > > > The global corporations that profit from copyright are lobbying for > > draconian punishments, and to increase their copyright powers, > > while suppressing public access to technology. But if we seriously > > hope to serve the only legitimate purpose of copyright--to promote > > progress, for the benefit of the public--then we must make > > changes in the other direction. > > Will be of interest to anyone creating or working with digital > content, working with policy or wanting to take part in a lively > discussion on copyright (and copyleft) - as well as a chance to meet > and talk with Richard himself. > > We're quickly filling up for GGG, so if you may get no places left > for the main GGG event at UP.org.nz - but you can RSVP direct at > > If you have objections to filling in your details, email me or > something (we only need something for the name badge and an email > address so you can change your details), and I'll make sure you have > a block of seats reserved, and some refreshments for you (No Badge, > No Beer) If you can be there from about 14:30 onwards we'll get > straight into it at 15:00 to give you plenty of time to talk before > being invaded by the GGG masses. > > Feel free to pass on the details to your colleagues, work-mates, > fellow-FSUGs and the like. We've got 150+ seats to fill - so call in > sick that afternoon ;) > > Awesome to have RMS along, and he may stay for the GGG evening, if > you need to talk further. > > Jo Booth > Network Facilitator > Website, Communications & Membership > Unlimited Potential - ICT Professionals' Network > http://UP.org.nz > +64 21 526684 > +64 4 802 3586 > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > plug mailing list, plug@linux.net.nz > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug From johney at mre.co.nz Sat Jul 26 11:05:35 2008 From: johney at mre.co.nz (johney) Date: Sat Jul 26 11:05:39 2008 Subject: [plug] Re: [wellylug] Richard Stallman visit to wellington In-Reply-To: <1217026556.6385.13.camel@localhost> References: <131478.50587.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1217026556.6385.13.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1217027135.6385.15.camel@localhost> On Sat, 2008-07-26 at 10:55 +1200, johney wrote: I can take Waylon + 2 others I think > OK I've got to go to this (it's like a religious thing almost) > I can drive some people down! > > On Wed, 2008-07-23 at 19:56 -0700, Waylon Robertson wrote: > > okay, anyone going to this event? anyone able to take me to it, and back? > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Jo Booth > > To: Wellington Linux Users Group > > Cc: jo-ggg-RMS@UP.org.nz; Palmerston North Linux Users Group > > Sent: Wednesday, 23 July, 2008 9:37:42 PM > > Subject: [plug] Re: [wellylug] Richard Stallman visit to wellington > > > > Hey, some updated details from UP: > > > > On 23/07/2008, at 13:05 , Peter Lambrechtsen wrote: > > > I am organising Richard Stallman's (rms) visit to Wellington, thought > > > I would make the Wellylug what is tentatively booked thus far. > > > > > ---- > > Wednesday 13 Aug > > - Arrive Wellington at ~11:30 (flight to be confirmed) > > - Present at GGG - (www.up.org.nz/gadgets-games-geeks-08/) from 3pm - > > 5:30 > > - RSVP at http://UP.org.nz/Richard-Stallman-at-GGG > > - Venue is the L2 Council Chambers - Wellington Town Hall (yes it is > > the mayoral suite) > > > > We've asked Richard to talk on the topic "Copyright vs Community in > > the Age of Computer Networks" as per the abstract: > > > Copyright developed in the age of the printing press, and was > > > designed to fit with the system of centralized copying imposed by > > > the printing press. But the copyright system does not fit well > > > with computer networks, and only draconian punishments can enforce it. > > > > > > The global corporations that profit from copyright are lobbying for > > > draconian punishments, and to increase their copyright powers, > > > while suppressing public access to technology. But if we seriously > > > hope to serve the only legitimate purpose of copyright--to promote > > > progress, for the benefit of the public--then we must make > > > changes in the other direction. > > > > Will be of interest to anyone creating or working with digital > > content, working with policy or wanting to take part in a lively > > discussion on copyright (and copyleft) - as well as a chance to meet > > and talk with Richard himself. > > > > We're quickly filling up for GGG, so if you may get no places left > > for the main GGG event at UP.org.nz - but you can RSVP direct at > > > > If you have objections to filling in your details, email me or > > something (we only need something for the name badge and an email > > address so you can change your details), and I'll make sure you have > > a block of seats reserved, and some refreshments for you (No Badge, > > No Beer) If you can be there from about 14:30 onwards we'll get > > straight into it at 15:00 to give you plenty of time to talk before > > being invaded by the GGG masses. > > > > Feel free to pass on the details to your colleagues, work-mates, > > fellow-FSUGs and the like. We've got 150+ seats to fill - so call in > > sick that afternoon ;) > > > > Awesome to have RMS along, and he may stay for the GGG evening, if > > you need to talk further. > > > > Jo Booth > > Network Facilitator > > Website, Communications & Membership > > Unlimited Potential - ICT Professionals' Network > > http://UP.org.nz > > +64 21 526684 > > +64 4 802 3586 > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > plug mailing list, plug@linux.net.nz > > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug > > > _______________________________________________ > plug mailing list, plug@linux.net.nz > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug From meow at tunaweb.net.nz Wed Jul 30 11:39:40 2008 From: meow at tunaweb.net.nz (N J 'Meow' Skarott) Date: Wed Jul 30 11:40:57 2008 Subject: [plug] Re: [wellylug] Richard Stallman visit to wellington In-Reply-To: <1217026556.6385.13.camel@localhost> References: <131478.50587.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1217026556.6385.13.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <000901c8f1d4$5ed1aee0$1c750ca0$@net.nz> I'll try get down there. Isn't this the same day as our PLUG meeting? --Meow -----Original Message----- From: plug-bounces@linux.net.nz [mailto:plug-bounces@linux.net.nz] On Behalf Of johney Sent: Saturday, 26 July 2008 10:56 a.m. To: Palmerston North Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [plug] Re: [wellylug] Richard Stallman visit to wellington OK I've got to go to this (it's like a religious thing almost) I can drive some people down! On Wed, 2008-07-23 at 19:56 -0700, Waylon Robertson wrote: > okay, anyone going to this event? anyone able to take me to it, and back? > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Jo Booth > To: Wellington Linux Users Group > Cc: jo-ggg-RMS@UP.org.nz; Palmerston North Linux Users Group > Sent: Wednesday, 23 July, 2008 9:37:42 PM > Subject: [plug] Re: [wellylug] Richard Stallman visit to wellington > > Hey, some updated details from UP: > > On 23/07/2008, at 13:05 , Peter Lambrechtsen wrote: > > I am organising Richard Stallman's (rms) visit to Wellington, thought > > I would make the Wellylug what is tentatively booked thus far. > > > ---- > Wednesday 13 Aug > - Arrive Wellington at ~11:30 (flight to be confirmed) > - Present at GGG - (www.up.org.nz/gadgets-games-geeks-08/) from 3pm - > 5:30 > - RSVP at http://UP.org.nz/Richard-Stallman-at-GGG > - Venue is the L2 Council Chambers - Wellington Town Hall (yes it is > the mayoral suite) > > We've asked Richard to talk on the topic "Copyright vs Community in > the Age of Computer Networks" as per the abstract: > > Copyright developed in the age of the printing press, and was > > designed to fit with the system of centralized copying imposed by > > the printing press. But the copyright system does not fit well > > with computer networks, and only draconian punishments can enforce it. > > > > The global corporations that profit from copyright are lobbying for > > draconian punishments, and to increase their copyright powers, > > while suppressing public access to technology. But if we seriously > > hope to serve the only legitimate purpose of copyright--to promote > > progress, for the benefit of the public--then we must make > > changes in the other direction. > > Will be of interest to anyone creating or working with digital > content, working with policy or wanting to take part in a lively > discussion on copyright (and copyleft) - as well as a chance to meet > and talk with Richard himself. > > We're quickly filling up for GGG, so if you may get no places left > for the main GGG event at UP.org.nz - but you can RSVP direct at > > If you have objections to filling in your details, email me or > something (we only need something for the name badge and an email > address so you can change your details), and I'll make sure you have > a block of seats reserved, and some refreshments for you (No Badge, > No Beer) If you can be there from about 14:30 onwards we'll get > straight into it at 15:00 to give you plenty of time to talk before > being invaded by the GGG masses. > > Feel free to pass on the details to your colleagues, work-mates, > fellow-FSUGs and the like. We've got 150+ seats to fill - so call in > sick that afternoon ;) > > Awesome to have RMS along, and he may stay for the GGG evening, if > you need to talk further. > > Jo Booth > Network Facilitator > Website, Communications & Membership > Unlimited Potential - ICT Professionals' Network > http://UP.org.nz > +64 21 526684 > +64 4 802 3586 > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > plug mailing list, plug@linux.net.nz > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug _______________________________________________ plug mailing list, plug@linux.net.nz http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug From johngflower at actrix.co.nz Wed Jul 30 18:15:03 2008 From: johngflower at actrix.co.nz (John Flower) Date: Wed Jul 30 18:16:41 2008 Subject: [plug] Palmy PLUG meeting 13th August In-Reply-To: <20080730000028.9CF1483F4B@waverider.actrix.co.nz> References: <20080730000028.9CF1483F4B@waverider.actrix.co.nz> Message-ID: <1217398503.3498.13.camel@icecream> > > I'll try get down there. Isn't this the same day as our PLUG meeting? > --Meow It is the same. For those coming to the Palmy meeting I've updated the front page for our website http://www.plug.org.nz/. John Eyres - will you do your xen thing the following meeting? I've had a bit of fun prepping for the Revisor talk. Revisor is a GUI app that allows you to create your own install disk/live media. I've got a fire'n'forget custom distro ready as an example. Turn computer on, pop dvd in drive, wait, enter user name and password and voila! Linux installed with popular multimedia codecs included & unneccesary services turned off. Total labour time <2 minutes (less if you're a fast typer ;) Regards, John