[nzlug] Re: NZLUG Digest, Vol 35, Issue 1
solanth
solanth at ihug.co.nz
Thu May 1 17:40:22 NZST 2008
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> 1. Re: Buzz-word Compliance (minor hijack) (Nevyn)
> 2. Re: Buzz-word Compliance (minor hijack) (Robin Sheat)
> 3. Xine on Fedora 8: does it work for anyone? (Patrick Connolly)
> 4. Re: Xine on Fedora 8: does it work for anyone? (Simon Bridge)
> 5. Kiwicon 2k8 - Call For Papers (kiwicon at kiwicon.org)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:24:31 +1200
> From: Nevyn <nevynh at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [nzlug] Buzz-word Compliance (minor hijack)
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> On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:16 AM, Cliff Pratt <enkidu at cliffp.com> wrote:
> > Simon Bridge wrote:
> > > > The term "business logic" was mentioned. This to me is a Buzz word
> > > > (Yes
> >
> > again with the capital). Not jargon.
> >
> > > Yes it is. And it is not to be challenged at a meeting. Buzzwords are
> > > a fundamental point of friction between technical staff (who are
> > > trained to use language for communicating ideas) and management (who
> > > are trained to use language to obscure the responsibility).
> >
> > "Business logic" is a legitimate term - it refers to the way that the
> > data is manipulated in an application to address the needs of the
> > business. An example would be to arrange output and reports with the
> > correct cost centre set up for the firm.
> >
> > It doesn't mean anything to do with strategic directions.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Cliff
>
> To an I.T. professional, whose focus is in the realms of computers
> rather than business, all we need to know is "What data do you want?",
> "How does the data relate to each other? (Can I derive information?)"
> and "How should that data be presented?"
>
> I put the qualifier for focus in there as the lines between business
> and computers is quite rightly blurred at times but it is often easier
> to set examples when the extremes are examined. I would go further in
> saying that the original subject of this post was at one of those
> extremes refusing to see what the other end of the spectrum was
> saying.
>
> As for having nothing to do with strategic directions. I remember
> doing a class in Christchurch Polytechnic called Management Theory and
> Functions. Probably the best business related paper I ever sat as it
> had focus. At one point though we had a different lecturer for the
> subject of Strategic Management. His first words on the subject were,
> "This is complete bull[turd]!". Basically the idea is, if you're not
> managing strategically you're not managing at all. Change for the sake
> of change is usually just an upheaval to justify yourself being there.
>
> So if you don't have your business logic in mind when you chose your
> strategic direction, you're probably not making the changes for the
> right reasons.
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:51:42 +1200
> From: Robin Sheat <robin at kallisti.net.nz>
> Subject: Re: [nzlug] Buzz-word Compliance (minor hijack)
> To: NZLUG Mailing List <nzlug at linux.net.nz>
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> On Wednesday 30 April 2008 15:24:31 Nevyn wrote:
> > To an I.T. professional, whose focus is in the realms of computers
> > rather than business, all we need to know is "What data do you want?",
> > "How does the data relate to each other? (Can I derive information?)"
> > and "How should that data be presented?"
>
> Eh, looking through some sample code I'm working with at the moment, aimed
> at programmers, I saw the comment:
>
> /**
> * The high-level PetClinic business interface.
> * <p/>
> * <p>This is basically a data access object,
> * as PetClinic doesn't have dedicated business logic.
> *
> * @author Ken Krebs
> * @author Juergen Hoeller
> */
>
> (doesn't have it because it's a demo program). 'Business logic' is
> (appropriate) jargon, not a buzz-word. Of course, it does depend on the
> context it was initially used.
>
> --
> Robin <robin at kallisti.net.nz> JabberID: <eythian at jabber.kallisti.net.nz>
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> Hostes alienigeni me abduxerunt. Qui annus est?
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:42:07 +1200
> From: Patrick Connolly <tuxkid at slingshot.co.nz>
> Subject: [nzlug] Xine on Fedora 8: does it work for anyone?
> To: "NZ Linux Users' Group" <nzlug at linux.net.nz>
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> When I used Fedora Core 6, Xine worked perfectly. Now that I've
> updated to Fedora 8, at least something seems to be missing. Sounds
> seems to work fine, but the video is very jerky, and the keyboard
> shortcuts don't have any effect.
>
> These are the packages I have installed.
>
> # yum list xine*
> Installed Packages
> xine.i386 0.99.5-1.lvn8 installed
> xine-lib.i386 1.1.12-2.fc8 installed
> xine-lib-arts.i386 1.1.12-2.fc8 installed
> xine-lib-devel.i386 1.1.12-2.fc8 installed
> xine-lib-extras.i386 1.1.12-2.fc8 installed
> xine-lib-extras-nonfree.i386 1.1.12-1.lvn8 installed
> xine-lib-pulseaudio.i386 1.1.12-2.fc8 installed
> xine-plugin.i386 1.0-5.fc8 installed
> Available Packages
> xinetd.i386 2:2.3.14-14.fc8 fedora
>
>
> Of course, the Available package in that list is something separate,
> but is there something else I need. I don't remember well just what
> was used in the FC 6 installation.
>
> Ideas welcome.
I use FC8 and it works fine
try www.gagme.com
or search for fedora 7 tips and tricks or fedora 8 etc
rgds Ian C
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