[nzlug] Being a lazy burger....

[anru chen]

On 4/3/07, Volker Kuhlmann <hidden at paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> On Mon 02 Apr 2007 01:18:54 NZST +1200, cr wrote:
>
> Some other points (back on topic) which haven't been mentioned yet.
>
> It seems to me that there is a difference with regards to Linux support
> between the really bottom-end cheap inkjets and the more expensive
> models. At the low end manufacturers are fighting it out with cheaper
> components which are often proprietory, so manufacturers coulnd't make
> an OSS driver even if they wanted to.

    manufacturies do not need to make OSS driver, what they need to do
is open   they proprietory hardware design.

i think i am disagree here with you, proprietory hardware design only
applys to expensive hardware not cheap one.  and a lot of cheap
hardware actully as same as expensive one but with less functions, i
think that why manufacturies do not want do open tney hardware design.

regards,

anru

(Using different components is not
> a practical option in the real world.) This happened to scanners - there
> are very few if any cheap scanners on the market with good OSS drivers.
>
> Applause to those manufacturer(s) who make OSS drivers anwyay. Time to
> point out that Epson has always had good Linux support (as far as OSS
> goes) because they made specs available at least for their higher-end
> printers, although they don't make drivers themselves. Canon is
> hopeless. HP is very good only recently. (And the one hplip I'm using
> doesn't work - big margins inserted left and top on second and
> consecutive pages.)
>
> At the high-end photo (inkjet) printer market Epson and Canon are
> dishing it out with each other. HP never gets a mention by professionals
> as far as I can tell. HP is an office printer company. Good for those
> only looking for an office printer, not necessarily satisfactory for
> purposes beyond that. (Yes they all print photos, but that's another
> thread.)
>
> The printing problem isn't only with manufacturer printer drivers, but
> with CUPS & Co too. A bit over 4 years ago I bought turboprint because
> OSS was next to useless. (Useful results count, never mind the price.
> Arguments a la "well what you paid them bla bla" are silly, they don't
> get my job done.) Much work has gone into gimpprint and it was looking
> pretty good - choice is good here. Then gutenprint comes along, and
> enforces 15mm margin top, left, right, and 20mm at the bottom. On a
> margin-less printer. Previously, editing the printable area in the PPD
> file to 1mm margins had the intended effect (well had with turboprint).
> Not so with gutenprint - the printable area is hard-compiled into the
> driver!! Then printing front-ends / application interfaces are foolishly
> made to only scale to printable area. Not only mandatory big margins, it
> screws the page image too. Back to low-level netpbm-type command line.
> Acroread (which I am not a fan of) gives the options page scaling =
> none, fit to page, and 2 others. Since OSS is non-performing, it's back
> to turboprint (again). For over 4 years (with one minor exception on
> 64bit once), it has given dependable results and just worked. Not
> something new every 12 months which still doesn't work right.
>
> I don't feel like buying an HP inkjet just because their driver might
> work better. But when using turboprint anyway, the choice of printer is
> wide open - its model support is superb, I hear even the Canons work
> very well...
>
> Volker
>
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