[nzlug] (OT) Sorbs etc, was Exim: Limiting outgoing connections on Debian

[Tony Wills]

At 09:54 6/10/2006, Simon Lyall wrote:
>On Thu, 5 Oct 2006, Tony Wills wrote:
> > very little SPAM is generated from within NZ
>...1. There are plenty (10% of all Internet connected home computers is a
>good rule of thumb) of Zombie infected home computers in NZ that are
>being used to send Spam.

Where can I see a list (sounds like good business for me :-).  But 
seriously where are the NZ stats?  Ahh, now I see a way we can bring this 
back on topic, what operating system are these Zombies machines running, 
and is there an alternative ?  ;-)

 >>, and it is now illegal to send spam in NZ

>2. The anti-spam bill has not yet passed into law

Ok I was wrong (tm).  And of course it will all come down to enforcement, 
of which I expect there will be painfully little ;-)

> > This has caused many problems and imposed direct costs on non-profit groups
> > and small businesses that I have dealt with (cost transference).
...
>There are plenty of options for using alternative Smarthosts than the
>ISPs, several companies are in this business already and there is
>nothing stopping you setting up a smarthost for your clients they can
>send email via.

As I said, cost transference - as you said they're "in business" providing 
these services.
And, yes what stops me is additional cost of obtaining a non RBL blocked 
address.
I'm talking about small (often one or two people) businesses and non-profit 
groups who don't appreciate extra costs transferred to them by large 
organisations who go for the cheapest 'solution' for themselves.

Block addresses of SPAMers both external and within your organisation, 
don't wholesale block addresses just because that's easiest.

Tony.