From webmaster at t94xr.net.nz Fri Jan 9 01:33:21 2009 From: webmaster at t94xr.net.nz (t94xr) Date: Fri Jan 9 01:33:34 2009 Subject: [hblug] Ubuntu Stickers and other awesome stickers In-Reply-To: <910c73490811191803mc329f28jdd42f104cc2486f1@mail.gmail.com> References: <4924bdd6.010bca0a.7fb5.698cSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <910c73490811191803mc329f28jdd42f104cc2486f1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4965F291.7010401@t94xr.net.nz> Anyone out there with Ubuntu stickers - i have some the big ones you get the with the cds they send you but other types of ones? Who has the Powered by Ubuntu Stickers? Anyone got the DRM Defective by design stickers in NZ available? (yes I've been visited by Kirjava lol) I have a new lappy - Toshiba Satellite M40 - "evil-laptop" Cel 1.5G - 512MB - 60GB Ubuntu 8.10 t94xr Happy New Year guys :) From jtittsler at gmail.com Fri Jan 9 09:17:21 2009 From: jtittsler at gmail.com (Jim Tittsler) Date: Fri Jan 9 09:17:26 2009 Subject: [hblug] Ubuntu Stickers and other awesome stickers In-Reply-To: <4965F291.7010401@t94xr.net.nz> References: <4924bdd6.010bca0a.7fb5.698cSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <910c73490811191803mc329f28jdd42f104cc2486f1@mail.gmail.com> <4965F291.7010401@t94xr.net.nz> Message-ID: <63e484160901081217mf347dfdu9c21d1f33cfa4ad1@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 01:33, t94xr wrote: > Anyone out there with Ubuntu stickers - i have some the big ones you get the > with the cds they send you but other types of ones? Send a stamped, self-addressed envelope and request to: Ian Beardslee C/- Catalyst IT PO Box 11053 Manners St Wellington New Zealand He will send you some of the small System 76 stickers as part of the Ubuntu-NZ team effort. From p.spiller at xtra.co.nz Fri Jan 9 17:12:54 2009 From: p.spiller at xtra.co.nz (Perry Spiller) Date: Fri Jan 9 23:34:49 2009 Subject: [hblug] Is it the end of the desktop PC? Message-ID: Is it the end of the desktop PC The age of the desktop PC appears to be over as its more portable cousin, the laptop, surges ahead with consumers clamoring for light-weight computers in funky designs for use at home, in cafes and on the train to work. The age of the desktop PC appears to be over as its more portable cousin, the laptop, surges ahead with consumers clamoring for light-weight computers in funky designs for use at home, in cafes and on the train to work. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://www.linux.net.nz/pipermail/hblug/attachments/20090113/75442315/attachment.htm From daniel at danielfaulknor.com Tue Jan 13 15:36:58 2009 From: daniel at danielfaulknor.com (Daniel Faulknor) Date: Tue Jan 13 15:37:05 2009 Subject: [hblug] Laptop Help In-Reply-To: <496bee24.8453f10a.141c.ffffd02bSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> References: <496bee24.8453f10a.141c.ffffd02bSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Perry Spiller wrote: > > ----------------Earlier, Daniel asked-------------------- > > Was wondering if anyone had a laptop with a working cd & floppy and IDE > would mind me putting the hard drive from one of my laptops in it, so i can > get windows xp setup on it. > I promise i wont break it :) > > > > Good to 'see' you back, Daniel! > (How's Sam?) > > If you don't get any reasonable offers, > I have an unreasonable one to make. > And you can't be held to your promise, > because it's already broken. Just where, > is a mystery you may be able to solve. > New battery, new 500MB RAM, but it > just stopped working. > > The bad news . . . ? > It's a HP Pavilion ze4103s > enlighten me as to why thats bad news? Cheers -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.linux.net.nz/pipermail/hblug/attachments/20090113/0e0fad1f/attachment.htm From p.spiller at xtra.co.nz Tue Jan 13 15:59:17 2009 From: p.spiller at xtra.co.nz (Perry Spiller) Date: Tue Jan 13 15:59:37 2009 Subject: [hblug] Laptop Help In-Reply-To: References: <496bee24.8453f10a.141c.ffffd02bSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: ----------------Earlier, Daniel asked-------------------- >enlighten me as to why that's bad news? My understanding is that HP use non-standard architecture. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.linux.net.nz/pipermail/hblug/attachments/20090113/280cf149/attachment.htm From daniel at danielfaulknor.com Tue Jan 13 16:05:04 2009 From: daniel at danielfaulknor.com (Daniel Faulknor) Date: Tue Jan 13 16:05:49 2009 Subject: [hblug] Laptop Help In-Reply-To: <496c03a3.8153f10a.2709.ffffc492SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> References: <496bee24.8453f10a.141c.ffffd02bSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <496c03a3.8153f10a.2709.ffffc492SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Perry Spiller wrote: > ----------------Earlier, Daniel asked-------------------- > > enlighten me as to why that's bad news? > > > My understanding is that HP use non-standard architecture. > > Ah. Given up all hope? Daniel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.linux.net.nz/pipermail/hblug/attachments/20090113/8577d7f1/attachment.htm From p.spiller at xtra.co.nz Tue Jan 13 16:16:54 2009 From: p.spiller at xtra.co.nz (Perry Spiller) Date: Tue Jan 13 16:17:06 2009 Subject: [hblug] Laptop Help In-Reply-To: References: <496bee24.8453f10a.141c.ffffd02bSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <496c03a3.8153f10a.2709.ffffc492SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: ----------------Earlier, you commented-------------------- >>>enlighten me as to why that's bad news? >>My understanding is that HP use non-standard architecture. >Ah. Given up all hope? Given it's age, Daniel, it didn't seem like it was worth trying to repair - a job I can't do, anyway. I doubted that it would be economical to pay for repairs. I did try around to see if anyone else had a dead one, too, that might be cannibalized for parts. No joy. As you have another motive for trying, if you want to give it a go, just say so. After the new high-spec battery and extra RAM were added, it fairly sizzled along. Maybe that was the problem? The tyres blew out?!??! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.linux.net.nz/pipermail/hblug/attachments/20090113/ce63941d/attachment.htm From zendattacorporation at hotmail.com Fri Jan 16 07:16:19 2009 From: zendattacorporation at hotmail.com (jon zendatta) Date: Fri Jan 16 07:28:44 2009 Subject: [hblug] wireless card & chipset Message-ID: hell0 HB how do i identify my card & chipset (?) cheers reg/linux/usr/#453274/reg/ubuntu/usr/#17340 _________________________________________________________________ Got a 2008 financial hangover? Find a cure at MSN NZ Money http://money.msn.co.nz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.linux.net.nz/pipermail/hblug/attachments/20090116/35999d2d/attachment.htm From jtittsler at gmail.com Fri Jan 16 09:56:48 2009 From: jtittsler at gmail.com (Jim Tittsler) Date: Fri Jan 16 10:02:19 2009 Subject: [hblug] wireless card & chipse In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <63e484160901151256q4aaf796bk304d006ba06b9ca2@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 07:16, jon zendatta wrote: > how do i identify my card & chipset (?) If there are no clues in the output of 'dmesg', check 'lspci'. From zendattacorporation at hotmail.com Sun Jan 18 10:30:28 2009 From: zendattacorporation at hotmail.com (jon zendatta) Date: Sun Jan 18 10:34:15 2009 Subject: [hblug] wireless card & chipse In-Reply-To: <63e484160901151256q4aaf796bk304d006ba06b9ca2@mail.gmail.com> References: <63e484160901151256q4aaf796bk304d006ba06b9ca2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: yeah got those using lspci -vv >thanks. so my next question! I need a wireless card containing an Atheros chipset. After pinging www.dse.co.nz I found D-LINK-G630, but not in stock in Hastings, does anyone know of local shop with comprehensive list of wireless cards? I cannot mail order because Visa is not happy with me. reg/linux/usr/#453274/reg/ubuntu/usr/#17340 > Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:56:48 +1300 > From: jtittsler@gmail.com > To: hblug@linux.net.nz > Subject: Re: [hblug] wireless card & chipse > > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 07:16, jon zendatta > wrote: > > how do i identify my card & chipset (?) > > If there are no clues in the output of 'dmesg', check 'lspci'. > > _______________________________________________ > HBLUG mailing list > HBLUG@linux.net.nz > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug _________________________________________________________________ Free Windows Live software. Chat, search, share pics and more http://get.live.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.linux.net.nz/pipermail/hblug/attachments/20090118/74675c54/attachment.htm From kirjava at hblug.org.nz Mon Jan 19 17:57:08 2009 From: kirjava at hblug.org.nz (Rene Bartosh) Date: Mon Jan 19 17:57:20 2009 Subject: [hblug] HBLUG Website Message-ID: Hi there and happy new year fellow LUGgers, Just a quick heads-up to let you know I know have a website back online at hblug.org.nz - the backup of the old one was misplaced. If you have any suggestions as to information that should go on the website please let me know - other on or off list. The domain name is also up for renewal again and all donations would be greatly appreciated - if you are a business or similar I am happy to provide a link on the website. Please contact me off-list for bank account details. Cheers, Rene -- >From Rene Bartosh (Gmail account) Personal: http://kirjava.net.nz/ Work: http://eksion.net/ From stormcloud51090 at gmail.com Wed Jan 21 08:47:17 2009 From: stormcloud51090 at gmail.com (Haydn) Date: Wed Jan 21 08:47:57 2009 Subject: [hblug] wireless card & chipse In-Reply-To: References: <63e484160901151256q4aaf796bk304d006ba06b9ca2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49762A45.8090707@gmail.com> If you dont have any issues with mail order besides the VISA thing I can reccommend www.ascent.co.nz and www.pp.co.nz as they both do free postage, are reliable and allow bank transfers as a method of payment? Haydn jon zendatta wrote: > yeah got those using* lspci -vv* >thanks. > > so my next question! I need a wireless card containing an Atheros > chipset. After pinging www.dse.co.nz I found D-LINK-G630, but not in > stock in Hastings, does anyone know of local shop with comprehensive > list of wireless cards? I cannot mail order because Visa is not happy > with me. > > reg/linux/usr/#453274/reg/ubuntu/usr/#17340 > > > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:56:48 +1300 > > From: jtittsler@gmail.com > > To: hblug@linux.net.nz > > Subject: Re: [hblug] wireless card & chipse > > > > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 07:16, jon zendatta > > wrote: > > > how do i identify my card & chipset (?) > > > > If there are no clues in the output of 'dmesg', check 'lspci'. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > HBLUG mailing list > > HBLUG@linux.net.nz > > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Download today! Free Windows Live software. Chat, search, share pics > and more. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > HBLUG mailing list > HBLUG@linux.net.nz > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug > From p.spiller at xtra.co.nz Thu Jan 22 20:05:35 2009 From: p.spiller at xtra.co.nz (Perry Spiller) Date: Thu Jan 22 21:04:31 2009 Subject: [hblug] WiFi Questions Message-ID: After the last meet-up, Rene lent me a wireless router modem, which had the modem part disabled. This has worked as expected. Eventually, I bought another WAP, anticipating Rene's desire to have said castrated modem router back. Especially as it's the one 'we' use at meetings. The set-up process was far less than straight-forward as the instructions were all geared to a simple swap or add-in, using a one-modem-to-one-PC connection presumption. Anyway, I beat the beast into submission and all works as I think it should. Except something is not working the way the WAP thinks it should. I 'know' what it's about, generally, but I'm ignorant of the more precise details. I get warnings that it is an unsecure* (unencrypted, I presume) wireless network. The wireless security modes offered are: WEP WPA WPA2 I haven't the faintest idea what I should choose from those options, nor if I then have to tweak anything on the laptop. The present setting is Disable Wireless Security*. Does it really matter? Will someone dig me out of my hole, please? And, while I'm on the subject of wireless, if one takes a laptop somewhere that offers wireless hotspots (e.g. for a fee, like some m/hotels), what does one sit and do at the laptop to gain access? After - I presume - being given some sort of access/billing code by the accomm- odation's receptionist. Perry Still Lurking on the Dark Side From maggoty.haggis at gmail.com Thu Jan 22 21:29:09 2009 From: maggoty.haggis at gmail.com (E Drummond) Date: Thu Jan 22 21:29:19 2009 Subject: [hblug] WiFi Questions In-Reply-To: <4978289a.8753f10a.2b23.ffff887aSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> References: <4978289a.8753f10a.2b23.ffff887aSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hi, WEP, WPA and WPA2 are types of wireless encryption. WEP is easy to break, and uses a hexidecimal passkey (impossible to remember), so dont use it. WPA uses a proper password, and the encryption is a lot harder to break. WPA2 is a newer version of WPA, *more secure* or something, but some wireless cards dont support it (like mine). I'd use WPA. Not using encryption allows anyone to connect to your WAP and use up your internet, unless you have MAC filtering (which isnt secure at all, MAC addresses are easy to spoof). If you take a laptop somewhere with wireless, you can (under windows) scan for wireless networks by going Start->Settings->Network Connections, right clicking your network connection and going Properties (I think, i dont have a windows PC nearby). You can then click "view available wireless networks" or something to scan for networks. connecting is a matter of clicking on the network and clicking "Connect". On ubuntu, the NetworkManager applet takes care of wireless. Right click it and make sure "Enable Wireless" is checked. Wait a while, and any networks it picks up will be in the left-click menu. Click on a network to connect to it. Motels (the one im staying at anyway) give you an access card with a code on it. The first time you connect to the WAP and try to surf the net, a web page will ask you to input the code. The code usually expires after a set amount of time. Hope this helps, Erins On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Perry Spiller wrote: > > After the last meet-up, Rene lent me a wireless > router modem, which had the modem part disabled. > This has worked as expected. > > Eventually, I bought another WAP, anticipating > Rene's desire to have said castrated modem router > back. Especially as it's the one 'we' use at meetings. > > The set-up process was far less than straight-forward > as the instructions were all geared to a simple swap > or add-in, using a one-modem-to-one-PC connection > presumption. > > Anyway, I beat the beast into submission and all > works as I think it should. Except something is not > working the way the WAP thinks it should. > > I 'know' what it's about, generally, but I'm ignorant > of the more precise details. > > I get warnings that it is an unsecure* (unencrypted, > I presume) wireless network. The wireless security > modes offered are: > WEP > WPA > WPA2 > > I haven't the faintest idea what I should choose > from those options, nor if I then have to tweak > anything on the laptop. The present setting is > Disable Wireless Security*. Does it really matter? > Will someone dig me out of my hole, please? > > And, while I'm on the subject of wireless, if one > takes a laptop somewhere that offers wireless > hotspots (e.g. for a fee, like some m/hotels), > what does one sit and do at the laptop to gain > access? After - I presume - being given some > sort of access/billing code by the accomm- > odation's receptionist. > > Perry > Still Lurking on the Dark Side > > > _______________________________________________ > HBLUG mailing list > HBLUG@linux.net.nz > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.linux.net.nz/pipermail/hblug/attachments/20090122/b0baae06/attachment.html From p.spiller at xtra.co.nz Thu Jan 22 21:34:35 2009 From: p.spiller at xtra.co.nz (Perry Spiller) Date: Thu Jan 22 21:34:41 2009 Subject: [hblug] Interesting Net Article Message-ID: Time To Draw The Net Curtains On Windows? http://www.aardvark.co.nz/daily/2009/0122.shtml#continue From p.spiller at xtra.co.nz Thu Jan 22 21:41:29 2009 From: p.spiller at xtra.co.nz (Perry Spiller) Date: Thu Jan 22 21:41:42 2009 Subject: [hblug] WiFi Questions In-Reply-To: References: <4978289a.8753f10a.2b23.ffff887aSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: ----------------Earlier, you commented-------------------- >WEP, WPA and WPA2 are types of wireless encryption. WEP is easy to >break, and uses a hexidecimal passkey (impossible to remember), so >dont use it. WPA uses a proper password, and the encryption is a lot >harder to break. WPA2 is a newer version of WPA, *more secure* or >something, but some wireless cards dont support it (like mine). I'd use WPA. Thanks, Erins. And using WPA involves what, after I select it in the WAP firmware? As in selecting the WAP option seems to be the easy bit. What has to be done on the laptop? (For the home LAN) And what impact does tweaking any- thing to do with this WPA security on the laptop have on getting it to connect at a motel? (As in, [e.g.] what if their WiFi device 'security' uses a different protocol?) Perry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.linux.net.nz/pipermail/hblug/attachments/20090122/9cfed2cb/attachment.htm From kirjava at gmail.com Fri Jan 23 01:00:09 2009 From: kirjava at gmail.com (Rene Bartosh) Date: Fri Jan 23 01:05:40 2009 Subject: [hblug] WiFi Questions In-Reply-To: <4978314e.8253f10a.6c3e.6459SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> References: <4978289a.8753f10a.2b23.ffff887aSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <4978314e.8253f10a.6c3e.6459SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: 2009/1/22 Perry Spiller : > ----------------Earlier, you commented-------------------- > > WEP, WPA and WPA2 are types of wireless encryption. WEP is easy to break, > and uses a hexidecimal passkey (impossible to remember), so dont use it. WPA > uses a proper password, and the encryption is a lot harder to break. WPA2 is > a newer version of WPA, *more secure* or something, but some wireless cards > dont support it (like mine). I'd use WPA. > > Thanks, Erins. > > And using WPA involves what, after > I select it in the WAP firmware? As > in selecting the WAP option seems to > be the easy bit. What has to be done > on the laptop? (For the home LAN) You will need to re-scan for wireless networks on the laptop. When you connect to it, it will prompt you for a password. Once entered, this will be saved and the network will be automatically connected when in range. > And what impact does tweaking any- > thing to do with this WPA security > on the laptop have on getting it to > connect at a motel? (As in, [e.g.] > what if their WiFi device 'security' > uses a different protocol?) I assume we are talking windows XP here. The settings for wireless security are per-access point, therefore if you have WPA etc configured for use at home this will not affect use of public wifi hotspots. For the record, these are generally unencrypted but use a system known as a captive portal, which redirects all web requests (e.g. your browser homepage) to a page which requests a code for time/data your purchase, or give you an option of buying time/data with a credit card etc. > Perry > > > _______________________________________________ > HBLUG mailing list > HBLUG@linux.net.nz > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug > > -- >From Rene Bartosh (Gmail account) Personal: http://kirjava.net.nz/ Work: http://eksion.net/ From linux_mike at paradise.net.nz Fri Jan 23 08:51:07 2009 From: linux_mike at paradise.net.nz (Michael Adams) Date: Fri Jan 23 08:50:42 2009 Subject: [hblug] WiFi Questions In-Reply-To: References: <4978289a.8753f10a.2b23.ffff887aSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <20090123085107.624db709.linux_mike@paradise.net.nz> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 21:29:09 +1300 Came this utterance fomulated by E Drummond to my mailbox: > Hi, > > WEP, WPA and WPA2 are types of wireless encryption. WEP is easy to > break, and uses a hexidecimal passkey (impossible to remember), so > dont use it. WPA uses a proper password, and the encryption is a lot > harder to break. WPA2 is a newer version of WPA, *more secure* or > something, but some wireless cards dont support it (like mine). I'd > use WPA. > > Not using encryption allows anyone to connect to your WAP and use up > your internet, unless you have MAC filtering (which isnt secure at > all, MAC addresses are easy to spoof). > Except i have never heard of anyone taking the time to brute force attack MAC addresses on a home system. They are 2^48 numbers so your chance of hitting the approved MAC address are 1 in 281,474,976,710,656. Thats a lot of connection attempts. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 From jtittsler at gmail.com Fri Jan 23 09:26:43 2009 From: jtittsler at gmail.com (Jim Tittsler) Date: Fri Jan 23 09:26:50 2009 Subject: [hblug] WiFi Questions In-Reply-To: <20090123085107.624db709.linux_mike@paradise.net.nz> References: <4978289a.8753f10a.2b23.ffff887aSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <20090123085107.624db709.linux_mike@paradise.net.nz> Message-ID: <63e484160901221226nb4954abl7b52b9d05679a7c2@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 08:51, Michael Adams wrote: > Except i have never heard of anyone taking the time to brute force > attack MAC addresses on a home system. They are 2^48 numbers so your > chance of hitting the approved MAC address are 1 in 281,474,976,710,656. > Thats a lot of connection attempts. Although you can sniff long enough to catch a client successfully using the access point, and clone its MAC address. From maggoty.haggis at gmail.com Fri Jan 23 10:22:58 2009 From: maggoty.haggis at gmail.com (E Drummond) Date: Fri Jan 23 10:23:11 2009 Subject: [hblug] WiFi Questions In-Reply-To: <4978314e.8253f10a.6f14.ffffd477SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> References: <4978289a.8753f10a.2b23.ffff887aSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <4978314e.8253f10a.6f14.ffffd477SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hi, Setting the WAP to WPA should have asked you for a password, once you put it in, this is the password you use to connect. Your laptop will auto-detect the type of encryption the connection uses, and prompt you for a password if appropriate. Motels usually use unencrypted wireless, so you will be able to connect with no password, but if you try and go anywhere on the net you will be blocked until you enter the internet access code. Erin On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Perry Spiller wrote: > ----------------Earlier, you commented-------------------- > > WEP, WPA and WPA2 are types of wireless encryption. WEP is easy to break, > and uses a hexidecimal passkey (impossible to remember), so dont use it. WPA > uses a proper password, and the encryption is a lot harder to break. WPA2 is > a newer version of WPA, *more secure* or something, but some wireless cards > dont support it (like mine). I'd use WPA. > > > Thanks, Erins. > > And using WPA involves what, after > I select it in the WAP firmware? As > in selecting the WAP option seems to > be the easy bit. What has to be done > on the laptop? (For the home LAN) > > And what impact does tweaking any- > thing to do with this WPA security > on the laptop have on getting it to > connect at a motel? (As in, [e.g.] > what if their WiFi device 'security' > uses a different protocol?) > > Perry > > > _______________________________________________ > HBLUG mailing list > HBLUG@linux.net.nz > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.linux.net.nz/pipermail/hblug/attachments/20090123/a06ce4d2/attachment.htm From maggoty.haggis at gmail.com Fri Jan 23 10:26:47 2009 From: maggoty.haggis at gmail.com (E Drummond) Date: Fri Jan 23 10:26:55 2009 Subject: [hblug] WiFi Questions In-Reply-To: References: <4978289a.8753f10a.2b23.ffff887aSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <4978314e.8253f10a.6f14.ffffd477SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: It looks like I was fashionably late again "Except i have never heard of anyone taking the time to brute force attack MAC addresses on a home system. They are 2^48 numbers so your chance of hitting the approved MAC address are 1 in 281,474,976,710,656. Thats a lot of connection attempts." Only if you do it that way. Any decent wireless packet sniffing software will extract the MAC address of a valid computer right out of the packets. Of course the computer being targeted needs to be connected and transmitting data for this to work. Once you have the MAC address, you can force them to disconnect (not sure how Kismet does this) so you can connect with that MAC address. Erin On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 10:22 AM, E Drummond wrote: > Hi, > > Setting the WAP to WPA should have asked you for a password, once you put > it in, this is the password you use to connect. > > Your laptop will auto-detect the type of encryption the connection uses, > and prompt you for a password if appropriate. Motels usually use unencrypted > wireless, so you will be able to connect with no password, but if you try > and go anywhere on the net you will be blocked until you enter the internet > access code. > > Erin > > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Perry Spiller wrote: > >> ----------------Earlier, you commented-------------------- >> >> WEP, WPA and WPA2 are types of wireless encryption. WEP is easy to break, >> and uses a hexidecimal passkey (impossible to remember), so dont use it. WPA >> uses a proper password, and the encryption is a lot harder to break. WPA2 is >> a newer version of WPA, *more secure* or something, but some wireless cards >> dont support it (like mine). I'd use WPA. >> >> >> Thanks, Erins. >> >> And using WPA involves what, after >> I select it in the WAP firmware? As >> in selecting the WAP option seems to >> be the easy bit. What has to be done >> on the laptop? (For the home LAN) >> >> And what impact does tweaking any- >> thing to do with this WPA security >> on the laptop have on getting it to >> connect at a motel? (As in, [e.g.] >> what if their WiFi device 'security' >> uses a different protocol?) >> >> Perry >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> HBLUG mailing list >> HBLUG@linux.net.nz >> http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks to Fine Furniture for providing venue/internet. -- >From Rene Bartosh (Gmail account) Personal: http://kirjava.net.nz/ Work: http://eksion.net/ From p.spiller at xtra.co.nz Sun Jan 25 20:58:53 2009 From: p.spiller at xtra.co.nz (Perry Spiller) Date: Mon Jan 26 00:16:58 2009 Subject: [hblug] RAM WTB for Acer Aspire 3000 Message-ID: Got someone who's running XP on an Acer Aspire 3000, with 192MB of RAM! Bejabbers, I've never seen a PC run so slooooow. Like walking through treacle! Anyone got a large size stick of suitable RAM they want to sell? Seems to be something like this: DDR Acer Laptop Ram 512MB 333Mhz PC2700 200 pin SODIMM https://www.laptopbattery.co.nz/products.asp?product_no=19451 If not, I'll suggest he buy some from the above e-tailer. Perry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The DPF is a present, so I'll be giving it away, not long after the Feb meeting. And after I've loaded heaps of pix on to it. Perry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.linux.net.nz/pipermail/hblug/attachments/20090125/cdf51bd0/attachment.htm From webmaster at t94xr.net.nz Mon Jan 26 02:34:32 2009 From: webmaster at t94xr.net.nz (t94xr) Date: Mon Jan 26 02:34:59 2009 Subject: [hblug] RAM WTB for Acer Aspire 3000 Message-ID: <497C6A68.7030800@t94xr.net.nz> http://pricespy.co.nz/pno_6924.html This might be of some help :) Memory is backwards compatible, DDR667 RAM can run at DDR333 Easy. t94xr http://www.t94xr.net.nz/ http://www.t94xr.net.nz/home/ Perry Spiller wrote: > > Got someone who's running XP on an Acer Aspire > 3000, with 192MB of RAM! Bejabbers, I've never > seen a PC run so slooooow. Like walking through > treacle! > > Anyone got a large size stick of suitable RAM they > want to sell? > > Seems to be something like this: > DDR Acer Laptop Ram 512MB 333Mhz PC2700 200 pin SODIMM > https://www.laptopbattery.co.nz/products.asp?product_no=19451 > > If not, I'll suggest he buy some from the above e-tailer. > > Perry > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > HBLUG mailing list > HBLUG@linux.net.nz > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug > From daniel at danielfaulknor.com Mon Jan 26 10:25:44 2009 From: daniel at danielfaulknor.com (Daniel Faulknor) Date: Mon Jan 26 10:26:04 2009 Subject: [hblug] RAM WTB for Acer Aspire 3000 In-Reply-To: <497C6A68.7030800@t94xr.net.nz> References: <497C6A68.7030800@t94xr.net.nz> Message-ID: Isnt the ram in this laptop that i have, got DDR Ram? Cheers On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 2:34 AM, t94xr wrote: > http://pricespy.co.nz/pno_6924.html > > This might be of some help :) > Memory is backwards compatible, DDR667 RAM can run at DDR333 > > Easy. > t94xr > http://www.t94xr.net.nz/ > http://www.t94xr.net.nz/home/ > > Perry Spiller wrote: > >> >> Got someone who's running XP on an Acer Aspire >> 3000, with 192MB of RAM! Bejabbers, I've never >> seen a PC run so slooooow. Like walking through >> treacle! >> >> Anyone got a large size stick of suitable RAM they >> want to sell? >> >> Seems to be something like this: >> DDR Acer Laptop Ram 512MB 333Mhz PC2700 200 pin SODIMM >> https://www.laptopbattery.co.nz/products.asp?product_no=19451 >> >> If not, I'll suggest he buy some from the above e-tailer. >> >> Perry >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> HBLUG mailing list >> HBLUG@linux.net.nz >> http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > HBLUG mailing list > HBLUG@linux.net.nz > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug > -- Daniel Faulknor Web Developer www.danielfaulknor.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.linux.net.nz/pipermail/hblug/attachments/20090126/a137168a/attachment.htm From brenda at wallace.net.nz Mon Jan 26 13:03:09 2009 From: brenda at wallace.net.nz (Brenda Wallace) Date: Mon Jan 26 13:03:17 2009 Subject: [hblug] linux.conf.au in Wellington Message-ID: <200901261303.10529.brenda@wallace.net.nz> It is official. The next LCA (linux.conf.au), the biggest and best FOSS conference around, will be held in Wellington. More here: http://www.penguinsvisiting.org.nz/ http://nzoss.org.nz/news/2009/lca-2010-coming-to-wellington From p.spiller at xtra.co.nz Mon Jan 26 20:28:15 2009 From: p.spiller at xtra.co.nz (Perry Spiller) Date: Tue Jan 27 01:44:11 2009 Subject: [hblug] RAM WTB for Acer Aspire 3000 In-Reply-To: References: <497C6A68.7030800@t94xr.net.nz> Message-ID: No real idea. Even if it was, would that make it 'a fit' for the Acer? I recall when buying the RAM for the HP, that it was very specific - Kingston brand - RAM. Attempts at using other RAM, even when it actually fitted, proved that it wasn't 'recognised.' PS I'll be away for a few days, so may not respond to any further posts for a day or two. That said, I'm taking a WiFi enabled laptop. Using it may depend on how much like a wounded buffalo the charge is. ----------------Earlier, Daniel commented-------------------- >Isn't the ram in this laptop that I have, got DDR Ram? >>On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 2:34 AM, t94xr >><webmaster@t94xr.net.nz> wrote: >>http://pricespy.co.nz/pno_6924.html >> >>This might be of some help :) >>Memory is backwards compatible, DDR667 RAM can run at DDR333 >> >>Easy. >>t94xr >>http://www.t94xr.net.nz/ >>http://www.t94xr.net.nz/home/ >>>Got someone who's running XP on an Acer Aspire >>>3000, with 192MB of RAM! Bejabbers, I've never >>>seen a PC run so slooooow. Like walking through >>>treacle! >>> >>>Anyone got a large size stick of suitable RAM they >>>want to sell? >>> >>>Seems to be something like this: >>>DDR Acer Laptop Ram 512MB 333Mhz PC2700 200 pin SODIMM >>>https://www.laptopbattery.co.nz/products.asp?product_no=19451 >>> >>>If not, I'll suggest he buy some from the above e-tailer. >>> >>>Perry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.linux.net.nz/pipermail/hblug/attachments/20090126/49d69612/attachment.htm