From kirjava at gmail.com Mon Feb 2 18:49:14 2009 From: kirjava at gmail.com (Rene Bartosh) Date: Mon Feb 2 18:49:36 2009 Subject: [hblug] Re: HBLUG Meeting: Weds 4th February 2009 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Just a reminder closer-to-the-time that this is still going ahead on Wednesday. See you there, Rene 2009/1/25 Rene Bartosh : > What: Hawkes Bay LUG Meeting - first of 2009 > When: Wed 4th February from 7pm till around 10pm > Where: Fine Furniture/Taradale Upholstery > 169 Gloucester St, Taradale (rear building) > Map: http://maps.google.com/?q=169%20Gloucester%20St%2C%20Taradale%2C%20Hawkes%20Bay%204112%2C%20New%20Zealand > > Please feel free to come along and meet us, talk about Linux, install > Linux, debug problems etc. > > If you want to bring a computer, please bring some extension cables, a 4 way > board etc. and a patch cable (if you want internet/network). Extra > switches and cat5 are always a bonus. We have monitors and > keyboards/rodents spare, as well as jug cords. > > If you have any queries, please feel free to reply to this message. > > Thanks to Fine Furniture for providing venue/internet. > > > > -- > From Rene Bartosh (Gmail account) > Personal: http://kirjava.net.nz/ > Work: http://eksion.net/ > -- >From Rene Bartosh (Gmail account) Personal: http://kirjava.net.nz/ Work: http://eksion.net/ From p.spiller at xtra.co.nz Tue Feb 3 23:42:50 2009 From: p.spiller at xtra.co.nz (Perry Spiller) Date: Wed Feb 4 00:10:22 2009 Subject: [hblug] Digital Photo Frame Message-ID: Guys and Girls I'm planning to bring this frame along to the meeting. If anyone has a laptop that's not wifi, I'd like you to bring it and test the DPF wifi dongle on it. it doesn't work on the DPF. Bring any pix you might want to see displayed on the DPF. Perhaps on a pen drive. If not, we can use the USB cable for file transfer purposes. It has speakers, so can play musak. It can play movies, as well. The instructions are worse than horrible, but I'll bring them, just on case. So far, seems that 300 ppi is no good. 150ppi I can get to display. The sample pix in the internal memory are all 120ppi. Virtually all the pix I'll be scanning are B&W. Scanned the same pic many times at 72 - 300 ppi in RGB. Next tried greyscale, to see if the reproduction is any better. Nope - nothing at all. Seems very sensitive to file specs. Damned gadgets. Doesn't seem (so far!) to be any way to group pix in folders. Despite that, when plugged into a PC, it does indicate that assorted camera memory cards are treated as separate storage 'drives.' It's a present for my Dad, who has hundreds, if not thousands of historic pix. Perry From p.spiller at xtra.co.nz Wed Feb 4 16:52:46 2009 From: p.spiller at xtra.co.nz (Perry Spiller) Date: Wed Feb 4 16:52:59 2009 Subject: [hblug] Scanner, Anyone? (DPF) Message-ID: Has anyone got an easy-to-move scanner they can bring tonight, as well as a PC with appropriate scanner s/ware? And some pix? Might be fun to try a few things. Anyone else got/played with a DPF? Perry From daniel at danielfaulknor.com Wed Feb 4 17:05:14 2009 From: daniel at danielfaulknor.com (Daniel Faulknor) Date: Wed Feb 4 17:05:28 2009 Subject: [hblug] Scanner, Anyone? (DPF) In-Reply-To: <49891120.0c0bca0a.1794.2670SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> References: <49891120.0c0bca0a.1794.2670SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: I have a laptop with a parallel port, so can bring that if someone is going to bring a scanner This is a good place to get photos: http://www.istockphoto.com/ Cheers Daniel On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Perry Spiller wrote: > > Has anyone got an easy-to-move scanner > they can bring tonight, as well as a PC with > appropriate scanner s/ware? And some pix? > Might be fun to try a few things. > > Anyone else got/played with a DPF? > > Perry > > > _______________________________________________ > HBLUG mailing list > HBLUG@linux.net.nz > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug > -- Daniel Faulknor Web Developer www.danielfaulknor.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.linux.net.nz/pipermail/hblug/attachments/20090204/dab19629/attachment.htm From p.spiller at xtra.co.nz Thu Feb 5 21:50:44 2009 From: p.spiller at xtra.co.nz (Perry Spiller) Date: Thu Feb 5 21:52:59 2009 Subject: [hblug] JPG files Question Message-ID: Guys and Gals After fiddle-faddling with the photo frame at the Wed meeting at Rene's, I've played around some more. The scanner has been abandoned in favour of using a digital camera in macro (close-up) mode. The image quality improved enormously. But something really weird's going on. After taking the pix, I crop them in my graphics program and adjust brightness and contrast, etc., then save the file. But - get this - when they're put onto the DPF, they display like the original, uncropped and unedited pix! I kid you not. I've then checked in other graphics programs, e.g. IrfanView and the files display as I last saved them. But put them onto the DPF and they display as taken by the camera? What the . . . . ? Is this a quirk of jpg files? Or is the damned DPF omniscient and can somehow get the original file configuration from the saved and edited files? If I hadn't seen this, I'd not have believed it, so I wont blame you if you think I've gone crazy. No, I can't use a different graphics format - the DPF only supports jpg pic files. From stormcloud51090 at gmail.com Thu Feb 5 22:06:41 2009 From: stormcloud51090 at gmail.com (Haydn) Date: Thu Feb 5 23:03:03 2009 Subject: [hblug] JPG files Question In-Reply-To: <498aa91c.0b0bca0a.706c.ffff84eeSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> References: <498aa91c.0b0bca0a.706c.ffff84eeSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <498AAC21.4010108@gmail.com> Perry Spiller wrote: > > Guys and Gals > > After fiddle-faddling with the photo frame > at the Wed meeting at Rene's, I've played > around some more. The scanner has been > abandoned in favour of using a digital camera > in macro (close-up) mode. The image quality > improved enormously. But something really > weird's going on. > > After taking the pix, I crop them in my graphics > program and adjust brightness and contrast, etc., > then save the file. But - get this - when they're > put onto the DPF, they display like the original, > uncropped and unedited pix! I kid you not. > > I've then checked in other graphics programs, > e.g. IrfanView and the files display as I last saved > them. But put them onto the DPF and they display > as taken by the camera? What the . . . . ? > > Is this a quirk of jpg files? Or is the damned DPF > omniscient and can somehow get the original file > configuration from the saved and edited files? > > If I hadn't seen this, I'd not have believed it, so > I wont blame you if you think I've gone crazy. > > No, I can't use a different graphics format - the > DPF only supports jpg pic files. > > > _______________________________________________ > HBLUG mailing list > HBLUG@linux.net.nz > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug What are you using to do the cropping and adjustments? I believe some editors (mainly freebie/tie-in software) will, instead of actually changing the saved image, write a bunch of alterations to be done each time the photo is viewed and therefore would retain the original image, then I suppose the problem would lie in that the DPF doesnt respect these changes. Im pretty sure however that it is no quirk of jpg... at the very least because it would dramatically increase file size if it were always retaining the original which would kinda defeat the purpose of jpg. My only suggestion would be using a different editor, perhaps The GIMP or similar From p.spiller at xtra.co.nz Fri Feb 6 09:28:31 2009 From: p.spiller at xtra.co.nz (Perry Spiller) Date: Fri Feb 6 09:28:45 2009 Subject: [hblug] JPG files Question In-Reply-To: <498AAC21.4010108@gmail.com> References: <498aa91c.0b0bca0a.706c.ffff84eeSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <498AAC21.4010108@gmail.com> Message-ID: Perry Spiller wrote: >>Guys and Gals >> >>After fiddle-faddling with the photo frame >>at the Wed meeting at Rene's, I've played >>around some more. The scanner has been >>abandoned in favour of using a digital camera >>in macro (close-up) mode. The image quality >>improved enormously. But something really >>weird's going on. >> >>After taking the pix, I crop them in my graphics >>program and adjust brightness and contrast, etc., >>then save the file. But - get this - when they're >>put onto the DPF, they display like the original, >>uncropped and unedited pix! I kid you not. >> >>I've then checked in other graphics programs, >>e.g. IrfanView and the files display as I last saved >>them. But put them onto the DPF and they display >>as taken by the camera? What the . . . . ? >> >>Is this a quirk of jpg files? Or is the damned DPF >>omniscient and can somehow get the original file >>configuration from the saved and edited files? >> >>If I hadn't seen this, I'd not have believed it, so >>I wont blame you if you think I've gone crazy. >> >>No, I can't use a different graphics format - the >>DPF only supports jpg pic files. >> _______________________________________________ >What are you using to do the cropping and adjustments? >I believe some editors (mainly freebie/tie-in software) will, >instead of actually changing the saved image, write a bunch of >alterations to be done each time the photo is viewed and therefore >would retain the original image, then I suppose the problem would >lie in that the DPF doesnt respect these changes. Im pretty sure >however that it is no quirk of jpg... at the very least because it >would dramatically increase file size if it were always retaining >the original which would kinda defeat the purpose of jpg. >My only suggestion would be using a different editor, perhaps The >GIMP or similar PhotoImpact Bundled edition. Tried Gimp, Photoshop (full edition), IrfanView (which does cropping) - all to no avail! I'm looking at the thumbnail display on the DPF. They all display as the original camera pix, even though the images have been cropped and - in some cases - rotated. This is quite bizarre. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.linux.net.nz/pipermail/hblug/attachments/20090206/d814c182/attachment.htm From jtittsler at gmail.com Fri Feb 6 09:36:38 2009 From: jtittsler at gmail.com (Jim Tittsler) Date: Fri Feb 6 09:36:43 2009 Subject: [hblug] JPG files Question In-Reply-To: <498b4c00.050bca0a.124f.31d2SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> References: <498aa91c.0b0bca0a.706c.ffff84eeSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <498AAC21.4010108@gmail.com> <498b4c00.050bca0a.124f.31d2SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <63e484160902051236i2e2f6bf6rfea79b7da0e9f1fe@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 09:28, Perry Spiller wrote: > PhotoImpact Bundled edition. Tried Gimp, Photoshop > (full edition), IrfanView (which does cropping) - all to > no avail! I'm looking at the thumbnail display on the DPF. > They all display as the original camera pix, even though > the images have been cropped and - in some cases - rotated. > This is quite bizarre. Ah... JPEGs can contain a low-res thumbnail separate from the main image. It sounds like the tool you are using does not update (or even strip) the old thumbnail after editing. There is an Exif JPEG header manipulation tool that will allow you to replace (or strip entirely) the thumbnails. (jhead is available in many Linux distributions.) From linux_mike at paradise.net.nz Fri Feb 6 19:31:02 2009 From: linux_mike at paradise.net.nz (Michael Adams) Date: Fri Feb 6 19:35:40 2009 Subject: [hblug] JPG files Question In-Reply-To: <63e484160902051236i2e2f6bf6rfea79b7da0e9f1fe@mail.gmail.com> References: <498aa91c.0b0bca0a.706c.ffff84eeSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <498AAC21.4010108@gmail.com> <498b4c00.050bca0a.124f.31d2SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <63e484160902051236i2e2f6bf6rfea79b7da0e9f1fe@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090206193102.40ba16f5.linux_mike@paradise.net.nz> On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 09:36:38 +1300 Came this utterance fomulated by Jim Tittsler to my mailbox: > On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 09:28, Perry Spiller > wrote: > > PhotoImpact Bundled edition. Tried Gimp, Photoshop > > (full edition), IrfanView (which does cropping) - all to > > no avail! I'm looking at the thumbnail display on the DPF. > > They all display as the original camera pix, even though > > the images have been cropped and - in some cases - rotated. > > This is quite bizarre. > > Ah... JPEGs can contain a low-res thumbnail separate from the main > image. It sounds like the tool you are using does not update (or even > strip) the old thumbnail after editing. > > There is an Exif JPEG header manipulation tool that will allow you to > replace (or strip entirely) the thumbnails. (jhead is available in > many Linux distributions.) Without a seperate tool, try saving as a PNG or TIF (something lossless) in GIMP, unload then reload this new saved image, then converting back to a JPG. The objective being to find a format that does not support the internal thumbnail. You may wish to do this from the original if quality is important. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 From linux_mike at paradise.net.nz Wed Feb 18 22:54:31 2009 From: linux_mike at paradise.net.nz (Michael Adams) Date: Wed Feb 18 22:54:00 2009 Subject: [hblug] Furore over new law Message-ID: <20090218225431.12f79623.linux_mike@paradise.net.nz> Just in case some of you hadn't noticed. The main protest is the assumption of guilt without trial or "Guilty until proven innocent". Various organisations such as NZ Open Source Society, ISP's and libraries have other issues with the ammendment. Previously the parliamentary select committee on taking advise from ISP's etc recommended this section not be included in the law but were overruled by Judith Tizard - who knew better pre election ?!? http://www.stuff.co.nz/4851675a28.html [QUOTE] British actor Stephen Fry has given a global highlight to a protest against a contentious New Zealand internet law due to come into effect next week. ... The law at the centre of the furor is Section 92a, a proposed amendment to the country's copyright law, due to come into force on February 28th. The law instructs internet service providers that they "must adopt and reasonably implement a policy that provides for termination" of accounts used by anyone deemed a "repeat infringer" \x{2013} regardless of whether the person has been convicted of a crime or not. The new law would mean internet service providers would have to take on the role of \x{201C}gatekeeper\x{201D}, blocking online access to anyone accused of flouting copyright laws and illegally downloading films and music. The law says ISPs \x{2013} such as Telecom and Vodafone - must disconnect internet service to anyone "repeatedly accused" of accessing copyrighted material online. The BlackOut protest is the brainchild of a Kiwi organization called the Creative Freedom Foundation which is urging users to replace their avatars on all internet sites with a black box to illustrate what the internet could look like following the law change. Blacked out boxes have been appearing on social networking websites such as Twitter, Facebook, My Space and Bebo. [/QUOTE] http://creativefreedom.org.nz/blackout.html -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 From p.spiller at xtra.co.nz Wed Feb 18 23:22:13 2009 From: p.spiller at xtra.co.nz (Perry Spiller) Date: Thu Feb 19 00:02:18 2009 Subject: [hblug] Furore over new law In-Reply-To: <20090218225431.12f79623.linux_mike@paradise.net.nz> References: <20090218225431.12f79623.linux_mike@paradise.net.nz> Message-ID: ----------------Earlier, you commented-------------------- >Just in case some of you hadn't noticed. I had. I've written to Craig Foss - twice. "A Code of Practice" will fix it is the mantra. I've suggested that any Code of Practice allows ISPs to require malicious/false accusers to pay them $100,000. Without any recourse to the Courts, of course, just the same way it's supposed to happen, when unproven allegations are made to the ISP. Another aspect is the requisite "wire-tapping." Last I knew, even the NZ Police needed a warrant for that. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.linux.net.nz/pipermail/hblug/attachments/20090218/f671115b/attachment.htm From kirjava at gmail.com Thu Feb 19 11:42:37 2009 From: kirjava at gmail.com (Rene Bartosh) Date: Thu Feb 19 11:42:51 2009 Subject: [hblug] Furore over new law In-Reply-To: <499beac3.180bca0a.3553.ffffb313SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> References: <20090218225431.12f79623.linux_mike@paradise.net.nz> <499beac3.180bca0a.3553.ffffb313SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: An example of the techniques employed and how unreliable they are: http://dmca.cs.washington.edu Rene 2009/2/18 Perry Spiller : > ----------------Earlier, you commented-------------------- > > Just in case some of you hadn't noticed. > > I had. I've written to Craig Foss - twice. > > "A Code of Practice" will fix it is the mantra. > > I've suggested that any Code of Practice > allows ISPs to require malicious/false accusers > to pay them $100,000. Without any recourse > to the Courts, of course, just the same way it's > supposed to happen, when unproven allegations > are made to the ISP. > > Another aspect is the requisite "wire-tapping." > Last I knew, even the NZ Police needed > a warrant for that. > > > _______________________________________________ > HBLUG mailing list > HBLUG@linux.net.nz > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug > > -- >From Rene Bartosh (Gmail account) Personal: http://kirjava.net.nz/ Work: http://eksion.net/ From biggsbrendan at gmail.com Thu Feb 19 19:04:55 2009 From: biggsbrendan at gmail.com (Brendan Biggs) Date: Thu Feb 19 19:05:08 2009 Subject: [hblug] Acer Aspire 5000 Message-ID: <86f4537d0902182204ta795780w2d7829f2c05a20d9@mail.gmail.com> hello i have a a acer aspire 5000 and it has a problem with power. the battery only holds 8 mins of charge, so it connect to power most of the time, but recently it been hibernating because of a lost of power. Im thinking its got something to do with the power plug that connects to the laptop, is there any tested that i can do to find the problem, or and fixes that i can make. Any help would greatly appecated Cheers Brendan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.linux.net.nz/pipermail/hblug/attachments/20090219/1032ff4b/attachment.htm From maggoty.haggis at gmail.com Thu Feb 19 19:10:23 2009 From: maggoty.haggis at gmail.com (E Drummond) Date: Thu Feb 19 19:11:08 2009 Subject: [hblug] Acer Aspire 5000 In-Reply-To: <86f4537d0902182204ta795780w2d7829f2c05a20d9@mail.gmail.com> References: <86f4537d0902182204ta795780w2d7829f2c05a20d9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: does it randomly go into hibernation while you're using it? or does it only do it if you leave it idle for a bit? On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Brendan Biggs wrote: > hello > > i have a a acer aspire 5000 and it has a problem with power. the battery > only holds 8 mins of charge, so it connect to power most of the time, but > recently it been hibernating because of a lost of power. Im thinking its got > something to do with the power plug that connects to the laptop, > > is there any tested that i can do to find the problem, or and fixes that i > can make. > > Any help would greatly appecated > > Cheers > > Brendan > > > _______________________________________________ > HBLUG mailing list > HBLUG@linux.net.nz > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.linux.net.nz/pipermail/hblug/attachments/20090219/cba1190a/attachment.htm From daniel at danielfaulknor.com Thu Feb 19 19:48:26 2009 From: daniel at danielfaulknor.com (Daniel Faulknor) Date: Thu Feb 19 19:48:32 2009 Subject: [hblug] Acer Aspire 5000 In-Reply-To: References: <86f4537d0902182204ta795780w2d7829f2c05a20d9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Sorry to state the obvious but.. what happens when you wiggle the power plug? It might be loose? Does the problem happen when you wiggle it? Cheers On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 7:10 PM, E Drummond wrote: > does it randomly go into hibernation while you're using it? > > or does it only do it if you leave it idle for a bit? > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Brendan Biggs > wrote: >> >> hello >> >> i have a a acer aspire 5000 and it has a problem with power. the battery >> only holds 8 mins of charge, so it connect to power most of the time, but >> recently it been hibernating because of a lost of power. Im thinking its got >> something to do with the power plug that connects to the laptop, >> >> is there any tested that i can do to find the problem, or and fixes that i >> can make. >> >> Any help would greatly appecated >> >> Cheers >> >> Brendan >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> HBLUG mailing list >> HBLUG@linux.net.nz >> http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug >> > > > _______________________________________________ > HBLUG mailing list > HBLUG@linux.net.nz > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug > > -- Daniel Faulknor Web Developer www.danielfaulknor.com From biggsbrendan at gmail.com Thu Feb 19 19:49:43 2009 From: biggsbrendan at gmail.com (Brendan Biggs) Date: Thu Feb 19 19:49:53 2009 Subject: [hblug] Acer Aspire 5000 In-Reply-To: References: <86f4537d0902182204ta795780w2d7829f2c05a20d9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <86f4537d0902182249t2ed54c67t2cf7b820ccd10f3d@mail.gmail.com> at random while im using it, and now it not even reiceving power at all ! brendan On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 7:10 PM, E Drummond wrote: > does it randomly go into hibernation while you're using it? > > or does it only do it if you leave it idle for a bit? > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Brendan Biggs wrote: > >> hello >> >> i have a a acer aspire 5000 and it has a problem with power. the battery >> only holds 8 mins of charge, so it connect to power most of the time, but >> recently it been hibernating because of a lost of power. Im thinking its got >> something to do with the power plug that connects to the laptop, >> >> is there any tested that i can do to find the problem, or and fixes that i >> can make. >> >> Any help would greatly appecated >> >> Cheers >> >> Brendan >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> HBLUG mailing list >> HBLUG@linux.net.nz >> http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > HBLUG mailing list > HBLUG@linux.net.nz > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.linux.net.nz/pipermail/hblug/attachments/20090219/500bfd29/attachment.htm From daniel at danielfaulknor.com Thu Feb 19 19:51:20 2009 From: daniel at danielfaulknor.com (Daniel Faulknor) Date: Thu Feb 19 19:51:25 2009 Subject: [hblug] Acer Aspire 5000 In-Reply-To: <86f4537d0902182249t2ed54c67t2cf7b820ccd10f3d@mail.gmail.com> References: <86f4537d0902182204ta795780w2d7829f2c05a20d9@mail.gmail.com> <86f4537d0902182249t2ed54c67t2cf7b820ccd10f3d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Sounds like your power brick is having issues, or the power plug has come loose inside the laptop. On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Brendan Biggs wrote: > at random while im using it, and now it not even reiceving power at all ! > > > brendan > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 7:10 PM, E Drummond > wrote: >> >> does it randomly go into hibernation while you're using it? >> >> or does it only do it if you leave it idle for a bit? >> >> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Brendan Biggs >> wrote: >>> >>> hello >>> >>> i have a a acer aspire 5000 and it has a problem with power. the battery >>> only holds 8 mins of charge, so it connect to power most of the time, but >>> recently it been hibernating because of a lost of power. Im thinking its got >>> something to do with the power plug that connects to the laptop, >>> >>> is there any tested that i can do to find the problem, or and fixes that >>> i can make. >>> >>> Any help would greatly appecated >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Brendan >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> HBLUG mailing list >>> HBLUG@linux.net.nz >>> http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> HBLUG mailing list >> HBLUG@linux.net.nz >> http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug >> > > > _______________________________________________ > HBLUG mailing list > HBLUG@linux.net.nz > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug > > -- Daniel Faulknor Web Developer www.danielfaulknor.com From biggsbrendan at gmail.com Thu Feb 19 19:51:38 2009 From: biggsbrendan at gmail.com (Brendan Biggs) Date: Thu Feb 19 19:51:43 2009 Subject: [hblug] Acer Aspire 5000 In-Reply-To: References: <86f4537d0902182204ta795780w2d7829f2c05a20d9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <86f4537d0902182251q7825d61es80264e992b78ecd1@mail.gmail.com> yeah, well tryed that, nothing at all, i use to solve it by pulling the plug out then putting it back in and it work, but now it not working so yeah brendan On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Daniel Faulknor wrote: > Sorry to state the obvious but.. what happens when you wiggle the > power plug? It might be loose? Does the problem happen when you wiggle > it? > > Cheers > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 7:10 PM, E Drummond > wrote: > > does it randomly go into hibernation while you're using it? > > > > or does it only do it if you leave it idle for a bit? > > > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Brendan Biggs > > wrote: > >> > >> hello > >> > >> i have a a acer aspire 5000 and it has a problem with power. the battery > >> only holds 8 mins of charge, so it connect to power most of the time, > but > >> recently it been hibernating because of a lost of power. Im thinking its > got > >> something to do with the power plug that connects to the laptop, > >> > >> is there any tested that i can do to find the problem, or and fixes that > i > >> can make. > >> > >> Any help would greatly appecated > >> > >> Cheers > >> > >> Brendan > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> HBLUG mailing list > >> HBLUG@linux.net.nz > >> http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > HBLUG mailing list > > HBLUG@linux.net.nz > > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug > > > > > > > > -- > Daniel Faulknor > Web Developer > www.danielfaulknor.com > > _______________________________________________ > HBLUG mailing list > HBLUG@linux.net.nz > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.linux.net.nz/pipermail/hblug/attachments/20090219/94a0858e/attachment-0001.htm From biggsbrendan at gmail.com Thu Feb 19 19:52:31 2009 From: biggsbrendan at gmail.com (Brendan Biggs) Date: Thu Feb 19 19:52:37 2009 Subject: [hblug] Acer Aspire 5000 In-Reply-To: References: <86f4537d0902182204ta795780w2d7829f2c05a20d9@mail.gmail.com> <86f4537d0902182249t2ed54c67t2cf7b820ccd10f3d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <86f4537d0902182252y363ec9e4j112e318ca2c5fb93@mail.gmail.com> is there anything i can do to fix this, with out spend alot of money On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Daniel Faulknor wrote: > Sounds like your power brick is having issues, or the power plug has > come loose inside the laptop. > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Brendan Biggs > wrote: > > at random while im using it, and now it not even reiceving power at all > ! > > > > > > brendan > > > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 7:10 PM, E Drummond > > wrote: > >> > >> does it randomly go into hibernation while you're using it? > >> > >> or does it only do it if you leave it idle for a bit? > >> > >> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Brendan Biggs > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> hello > >>> > >>> i have a a acer aspire 5000 and it has a problem with power. the > battery > >>> only holds 8 mins of charge, so it connect to power most of the time, > but > >>> recently it been hibernating because of a lost of power. Im thinking > its got > >>> something to do with the power plug that connects to the laptop, > >>> > >>> is there any tested that i can do to find the problem, or and fixes > that > >>> i can make. > >>> > >>> Any help would greatly appecated > >>> > >>> Cheers > >>> > >>> Brendan > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> HBLUG mailing list > >>> HBLUG@linux.net.nz > >>> http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug > >>> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> HBLUG mailing list > >> HBLUG@linux.net.nz > >> http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > HBLUG mailing list > > HBLUG@linux.net.nz > > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug > > > > > > > > -- > Daniel Faulknor > Web Developer > www.danielfaulknor.com > > _______________________________________________ > HBLUG mailing list > HBLUG@linux.net.nz > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.linux.net.nz/pipermail/hblug/attachments/20090219/3c8c8802/attachment.htm From daniel at danielfaulknor.com Thu Feb 19 20:14:46 2009 From: daniel at danielfaulknor.com (Daniel Faulknor) Date: Thu Feb 19 20:14:53 2009 Subject: [hblug] Acer Aspire 5000 In-Reply-To: <86f4537d0902182252y363ec9e4j112e318ca2c5fb93@mail.gmail.com> References: <86f4537d0902182204ta795780w2d7829f2c05a20d9@mail.gmail.com> <86f4537d0902182249t2ed54c67t2cf7b820ccd10f3d@mail.gmail.com> <86f4537d0902182252y363ec9e4j112e318ca2c5fb93@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Is it still under warranty.. Also, (putting the bofh hat on here) is this linux related? You'll probably get more response from somewhere like www.pressf1.co.nz Cheers On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Brendan Biggs wrote: > is there anything i can do to fix this, with out spend alot of money > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Daniel Faulknor > wrote: >> >> Sounds like your power brick is having issues, or the power plug has >> come loose inside the laptop. >> >> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Brendan Biggs >> wrote: >> > at random while im using it, and now it not even reiceving power at all >> > ! >> > >> > >> > brendan >> > >> > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 7:10 PM, E Drummond >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> does it randomly go into hibernation while you're using it? >> >> >> >> or does it only do it if you leave it idle for a bit? >> >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Brendan Biggs >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> hello >> >>> >> >>> i have a a acer aspire 5000 and it has a problem with power. the >> >>> battery >> >>> only holds 8 mins of charge, so it connect to power most of the time, >> >>> but >> >>> recently it been hibernating because of a lost of power. Im thinking >> >>> its got >> >>> something to do with the power plug that connects to the laptop, >> >>> >> >>> is there any tested that i can do to find the problem, or and fixes >> >>> that >> >>> i can make. >> >>> >> >>> Any help would greatly appecated >> >>> >> >>> Cheers >> >>> >> >>> Brendan >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> HBLUG mailing list >> >>> HBLUG@linux.net.nz >> >>> http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> HBLUG mailing list >> >> HBLUG@linux.net.nz >> >> http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug >> >> >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > HBLUG mailing list >> > HBLUG@linux.net.nz >> > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Daniel Faulknor >> Web Developer >> www.danielfaulknor.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> HBLUG mailing list >> HBLUG@linux.net.nz >> http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug > > > _______________________________________________ > HBLUG mailing list > HBLUG@linux.net.nz > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug > > -- Daniel Faulknor Web Developer www.danielfaulknor.com From p.spiller at xtra.co.nz Thu Feb 19 20:16:16 2009 From: p.spiller at xtra.co.nz (Perry Spiller) Date: Thu Feb 19 20:16:27 2009 Subject: [hblug] Acer Aspire 5000 In-Reply-To: <86f4537d0902182252y363ec9e4j112e318ca2c5fb93@mail.gmail.co m> References: <86f4537d0902182204ta795780w2d7829f2c05a20d9@mail.gmail.com> <86f4537d0902182249t2ed54c67t2cf7b820ccd10f3d@mail.gmail.com> <86f4537d0902182252y363ec9e4j112e318ca2c5fb93@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: ----------------Earlier, you commented-------------------- >is there anything i can do to fix this, with out spend alot of money Further to the obvious questions dept. Have you tried a known-to-be-good power supply from elsewhere, cables and all, to see if the result is the same? If you try that, you will - at least - have pinned down the problem to either the laptop or the power supply bits. Perry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.linux.net.nz/pipermail/hblug/attachments/20090219/f5c7350c/attachment.htm From biggsbrendan at gmail.com Thu Feb 19 20:22:59 2009 From: biggsbrendan at gmail.com (Brendan Biggs) Date: Thu Feb 19 20:23:11 2009 Subject: [hblug] Acer Aspire 5000 In-Reply-To: <499d0750.140bca0a.3eb2.0d16SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> References: <86f4537d0902182204ta795780w2d7829f2c05a20d9@mail.gmail.com> <86f4537d0902182249t2ed54c67t2cf7b820ccd10f3d@mail.gmail.com> <86f4537d0902182252y363ec9e4j112e318ca2c5fb93@mail.gmail.com> <499d0750.140bca0a.3eb2.0d16SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <86f4537d0902182322s4798f195hceff335844ef1873@mail.gmail.com> yeah ill try those things, and yes it dose have linux on it, lol well thank Brendan On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 8:16 PM, Perry Spiller wrote: > ----------------Earlier, you commented-------------------- > > is there anything i can do to fix this, with out spend alot of money > > > Further to the obvious questions dept. > > Have you tried a known-to-be-good > power supply from elsewhere, cables > and all, to see if the result is the same? > > If you try that, you will - at least - have > pinned down the problem to either the > laptop or the power supply bits. > > Perry > > > _______________________________________________ > HBLUG mailing list > HBLUG@linux.net.nz > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.linux.net.nz/pipermail/hblug/attachments/20090219/48ebadaf/attachment.htm From jrt746 at clear.net.nz Thu Feb 19 20:44:18 2009 From: jrt746 at clear.net.nz (John Rye) Date: Thu Feb 19 20:44:24 2009 Subject: [hblug] Acer Aspire 5000 In-Reply-To: <86f4537d0902182252y363ec9e4j112e318ca2c5fb93@mail.gmail.com> References: <86f4537d0902182204ta795780w2d7829f2c05a20d9@mail.gmail.com> <86f4537d0902182249t2ed54c67t2cf7b820ccd10f3d@mail.gmail.com> <86f4537d0902182252y363ec9e4j112e318ca2c5fb93@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090219204418.ce4147d7.jrt746@clear.net.nz> On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:52:31 +1300 Brendan Biggs wrote: > is there anything i can do to fix this, with out spend alot of money You try this; VERY VERY CAREFULLY!! 1. Disconnect the power lead from the computer 2. Look into the power socket on the computer. (You may need a light and magnifier) 3. Using something very thin and hard (jewellers screwdriver?) carefully reshape the 'wiper' which contact the outer ring of the power connector so it (or they) make better contact with the plug. Alternately you could bend (deflect) the central pin a little so that it makes a better contact in the plug itself. There is no guarantee this will work if the power supply plugpack is faulty - you need to get it checked by a competent electrical person. John From biggsbrendan at gmail.com Thu Feb 19 21:01:13 2009 From: biggsbrendan at gmail.com (Brendan Biggs) Date: Thu Feb 19 21:01:20 2009 Subject: [hblug] Acer Aspire 5000 In-Reply-To: <20090219204418.ce4147d7.jrt746@clear.net.nz> References: <86f4537d0902182204ta795780w2d7829f2c05a20d9@mail.gmail.com> <86f4537d0902182249t2ed54c67t2cf7b820ccd10f3d@mail.gmail.com> <86f4537d0902182252y363ec9e4j112e318ca2c5fb93@mail.gmail.com> <20090219204418.ce4147d7.jrt746@clear.net.nz> Message-ID: <86f4537d0902190001g216aa1b8h7f2ccb1817d06f8d@mail.gmail.com> i could try that, but im thinking its more the plug that plugs into the computer, because i looks and the pin in the computer and there nothing wrong with it, so i think in need to take in and get the plug fix On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 8:44 PM, John Rye wrote: > On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:52:31 +1300 > Brendan Biggs wrote: > > > is there anything i can do to fix this, with out spend alot of money > > You try this; VERY VERY CAREFULLY!! > > 1. Disconnect the power lead from the computer > 2. Look into the power socket on the computer. > (You may need a light and magnifier) > 3. Using something very thin and hard (jewellers screwdriver?) > carefully reshape the 'wiper' which contact the outer ring of the > power connector so it (or they) make better contact with the > plug. > > Alternately you could bend (deflect) the central pin a little so that it > makes a better contact in the plug itself. > > There is no guarantee this will work if the power supply plugpack > is faulty - you need to get it checked by a competent electrical person. > > John > > _______________________________________________ > HBLUG mailing list > HBLUG@linux.net.nz > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.linux.net.nz/pipermail/hblug/attachments/20090219/f8adc87a/attachment-0001.htm From kirjava at gmail.com Fri Feb 27 12:56:27 2009 From: kirjava at gmail.com (Rene Bartosh) Date: Fri Feb 27 12:56:40 2009 Subject: [hblug] Meeting Reminder: Wed 4th March 2009 Message-ID: What: Hawkes Bay LUG Meeting When: Wed 4th March 2009 from 7pm till around 10pm Where: Fine Furniture/Taradale Upholstery 169 Gloucester St, Taradale (rear building) Map: http://maps.google.com/?q=169%20Gloucester%20St%2C%20Taradale%2C%20Hawkes%20Bay%204112%2C%20New%20Zealand I was thinking that this month seeing as copyright law is in the spotlight right now with the S92A debate, we could watch some docos on the subject of copyright law. Please feel free to come along and meet us, talk about Linux, install Linux, debug problems etc. If you want to bring a computer, please bring some extension cables, a 4 way board etc. and a patch cable (if you want internet/network). Extra switches and cat5 are always a bonus. We have monitors and keyboards/rodents spare, as well as jug cords. If you have any queries, please feel free to reply to this message. Thanks to Fine Furniture for providing venue/internet. -- >From Rene Bartosh (Gmail account) Personal: http://kirjava.net.nz/ Work: http://eksion.net/