From p.spiller at xtra.co.nz Wed Jul 2 15:35:10 2008 From: p.spiller at xtra.co.nz (Perry Spiller) Date: Wed Jul 2 16:01:37 2008 Subject: [hblug] Aardvark Commentary Message-ID: <451844.13011.qm@rel105.mail.aue.yahoo.com> Goodbye XP & Linux -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.linux.net.nz/pipermail/hblug/attachments/20080702/d3f640da/attachment.html From kirjava at gmail.com Wed Jul 2 16:27:18 2008 From: kirjava at gmail.com (Rene Bartosh) Date: Wed Jul 2 16:27:34 2008 Subject: [hblug] HBLUG Meeting reminder: Weds 2nd July - Tonight Message-ID: What: Hawkes Bay LUG Meeting When: 1st Wednesday of the month @ 7:00PM - about 10:00PM Where: Fine Furniture/Taradale Upholstery 169 Gloucester St, Taradale (rear building) Map: http://www.zoomin.co.nz/nz/napier/taradale/gloucester+street/169/ Please feel free to come along and meet us, talk about Linux, install Linux, debug problems etc. If you want to bring a box, please bring some extension cables, a 4 way board etc. and a patch cable (if you want internet/network). Extra switches and cat5 are always a bonus. We have monitors and keyboards/rodents spare, as well as jug cords. If you have any queries, please feel free to reply to this message. Thanks to Fine Furniture for providing venue/internet. -- >From Rene Bartosh (Gmail account) Personal: http://kirjava.net.nz/ Work: http://eksion.net/ From kirjava at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 20:48:30 2008 From: kirjava at gmail.com (Rene Bartosh) Date: Wed Jul 9 01:07:55 2008 Subject: [hblug] Geekzone Pizza Evening - Hastings Message-ID: http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?ForumId=4&TopicId=22619 Just a heads up - maybe I will see some of you folks there. Rene -- >From Rene Bartosh (Gmail account) Personal: http://kirjava.net.nz/ Work: http://eksion.net/ From zendattacorporation at hotmail.com Wed Jul 9 07:37:34 2008 From: zendattacorporation at hotmail.com (jon zendatta) Date: Wed Jul 9 07:38:06 2008 Subject: [hblug] install firefox add_on Message-ID: hell0 can anyone tell me how to install xpi files downloaded to desktop. these are meant to reside in firefox>tools. apparently just drag & drop in to 'firefox', but this ain't working. cheers reg/linux/usr/#453274/reg/ubuntu/usr/#17340 _________________________________________________________________ Find singles in your area with Match. http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fmatch%2Enz%2Emsn%2Ecom%2Fchannel%2Findex%2Easpx%3Ftrackingid%3D1043416&_r=WL_EMAL_TAG&_m=EXT -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.linux.net.nz/pipermail/hblug/attachments/20080709/6eabd448/attachment.htm From jtittsler at gmail.com Wed Jul 9 12:44:32 2008 From: jtittsler at gmail.com (Jim Tittsler) Date: Wed Jul 9 12:44:44 2008 Subject: [hblug] install firefox add_on In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <63e484160807081744s58f73c96u6a6db8ae9c0426de@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 7:37 AM, jon zendatta wrote: > can anyone tell me how to install xpi files downloaded to desktop. Use Firefox's File... Open File menu item. Firefox will notice the file is a package and offer to install it for you. (Typically you don't download the extension to your desktop first... Firefox detects the package type during download and offers to install it for you at that point.) Jim From kirjava at gmail.com Thu Jul 10 13:14:35 2008 From: kirjava at gmail.com (Rene Bartosh) Date: Thu Jul 10 13:14:39 2008 Subject: [hblug] Hawkes Bay IT Message-ID: Hi Folks, Just a heads-up: Tony over at tall.co.nz has setup a mailing list called HBIT - Hawkes Bay IT for discussion of IT in Hawkes Bay and organising meet-ups for nibbles and talks - kinda modelled on Thursday Night Curry but without the curry and bill-splitting. Cheers, You not-so-BOFH list admin -- >From Rene Bartosh (Gmail account) Personal: http://kirjava.net.nz/ Work: http://eksion.net/ From kirjava at gmail.com Thu Jul 10 13:14:49 2008 From: kirjava at gmail.com (Rene Bartosh) Date: Thu Jul 10 13:14:52 2008 Subject: [hblug] Re: Hawkes Bay IT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.tall.co.nz/hbit Doh. Rene 2008/7/10 Rene Bartosh : > Hi Folks, > > Just a heads-up: Tony over at tall.co.nz has setup a mailing list > called HBIT - Hawkes Bay IT for discussion of IT in Hawkes Bay and > organising meet-ups for nibbles and talks - kinda modelled on Thursday > Night Curry but without the curry and bill-splitting. > > Cheers, > > You not-so-BOFH list admin > > -- > From Rene Bartosh (Gmail account) > Personal: http://kirjava.net.nz/ > Work: http://eksion.net/ > -- >From Rene Bartosh (Gmail account) Personal: http://kirjava.net.nz/ Work: http://eksion.net/ From kirjava at gmail.com Sat Jul 12 21:59:50 2008 From: kirjava at gmail.com (Rene Bartosh) Date: Sat Jul 12 21:59:56 2008 Subject: [hblug] HBLUG Library Message-ID: Evening folks, Just realised we should take a leaf out of the books (no pun intended) of other NZ LUGs and establish a bit of a library. If anyone has computer books laying around, I am happy to store them all in one place where they are easily accessable. To start: for my own research needs I am going to buy a copy of "Rebel Code" by Glyn Moody - http://www.amazon.com/Rebel-Code-Linux-Source-Revolution/dp/0738206709 Great book on Linux, GNU and the Open Source and Free Software movements - I have read it twice already but had to track down copies from out-of-town libraries. I also have "PHP and MySQL for Dynamic Web Sites" by Larry Ullman. Cheers, Rene -- >From Rene Bartosh (Gmail account) Personal: http://kirjava.net.nz/ Work: http://eksion.net/ From racepics at paradise.net.nz Sun Jul 13 08:30:54 2008 From: racepics at paradise.net.nz (chris morris) Date: Sun Jul 13 08:33:18 2008 Subject: [hblug] HBLUG Library In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4879147E.4010201@paradise.net.nz> I have a couple for you Rene Linux+ Study Guide, 3rd Edition (XKO-002) Upgrading and Repairing PCs cheers chris Rene Bartosh wrote: > Evening folks, > > Just realised we should take a leaf out of the books (no pun intended) > of other NZ LUGs and establish a bit of a library. If anyone has > computer books laying around, I am happy to store them all in one > place where they are easily accessable. > > To start: for my own research needs I am going to buy a copy of "Rebel > Code" by Glyn Moody - > http://www.amazon.com/Rebel-Code-Linux-Source-Revolution/dp/0738206709 > > Great book on Linux, GNU and the Open Source and Free Software > movements - I have read it twice already but had to track down copies > from out-of-town libraries. > > I also have "PHP and MySQL for Dynamic Web Sites" by Larry Ullman. > > Cheers, > > Rene > > -- Chris Morris From maggoty.haggis at gmail.com Sun Jul 13 09:54:46 2008 From: maggoty.haggis at gmail.com (E Drummond) Date: Sun Jul 13 09:55:08 2008 Subject: [hblug] Help with grep Message-ID: Hello, I am trying to get the revision of a subversion repository and compare it with an existing revision. If the revision is newer, the repository needs to be checked out. To determine the current revision, I thought I could use grep: svn info https://spaceboyz.net/svn/aegisub/trunk | grep Revision This returns the whole revision line: Revision: 2245 Basically what I need to do is only return the revision number, so I can compare it with the previous revision number. Is there a way to make grep return the next four characters after the string "Revision: " ? Google was not in a good mood today. - Erin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.linux.net.nz/pipermail/hblug/attachments/20080713/5da467af/attachment.htm From jtittsler at gmail.com Sun Jul 13 10:39:49 2008 From: jtittsler at gmail.com (Jim Tittsler) Date: Sun Jul 13 10:39:54 2008 Subject: [hblug] Help with grep In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <63e484160807121539g2e37bdcfmd9dce4d513cef88b@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 9:54 AM, E Drummond wrote: > I am trying to get the revision of a subversion repository and compare it > with an existing revision. If the revision is newer, the repository needs to > be checked out. > > To determine the current revision, I thought I could use grep: > svn info https://spaceboyz.net/svn/aegisub/trunk | grep Revision > > This returns the whole revision line: > Revision: 2245 > > Basically what I need to do is only return the revision number, so I can > compare it with the previous revision number. Is there a way to make grep > return the next four characters after the string "Revision: " ? You can use grep's -o to get part of a matched line: svn info https://spaceboyz.net/svn/aegisub/trunk | grep Revision | grep -o '[[:digit:]]\+' But instead of using grep, I would think of awk first: svn info https://spaceboyz.net/svn/aegisub/trunk | awk '/Revision:/ {print $2}' > Google was not in a good mood today. > > - Erin > > > _______________________________________________ > HBLUG mailing list > HBLUG@linux.net.nz > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug > > From maggoty.haggis at gmail.com Sun Jul 13 10:52:20 2008 From: maggoty.haggis at gmail.com (E Drummond) Date: Sun Jul 13 10:52:25 2008 Subject: [hblug] Help with grep In-Reply-To: <63e484160807121539g2e37bdcfmd9dce4d513cef88b@mail.gmail.com> References: <63e484160807121539g2e37bdcfmd9dce4d513cef88b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Awesome, both work perfectly but awk seems much simpler, I think i'll use that in future. Thanks On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Jim Tittsler wrote: > > But instead of using grep, I would think of awk first: > svn info https://spaceboyz.net/svn/aegisub/trunk | awk '/Revision:/ {print > $2}' > > > Google was not in a good mood today. > > > > - Erin > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > HBLUG mailing list > > HBLUG@linux.net.nz > > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > HBLUG mailing list > HBLUG@linux.net.nz > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.linux.net.nz/pipermail/hblug/attachments/20080713/9e74aad6/attachment.htm From linux_mike at paradise.net.nz Sun Jul 13 17:24:54 2008 From: linux_mike at paradise.net.nz (Michael Adams) Date: Sun Jul 13 17:23:39 2008 Subject: [hblug] HBLUG Library In-Reply-To: <4879147E.4010201@paradise.net.nz> References: <4879147E.4010201@paradise.net.nz> Message-ID: <20080713172454.6de446b3.linux_mike@paradise.net.nz> Problem is computer books are out of date so soon, you may have problems like "where's the book i donated?" or "this has nothing about CSS transparency". Having said that I am happy to loan mine, for short periods (hows your PHP project going? Rene), but they are generally out of date references. Even so I use them periodically for quick reference. HTML Complete (First Edition 1999) http://www.fishpond.co.nz/Books/Computers/Programming/HTML/product_info/1071806/ HTML Utopia: Designing Without Tables Using CSS (First Edition 2003) http://www.fishpond.co.nz/Books/Computers/Programming/Software_Development/product_info/2687986/ Mambo: Your visual blueprint for building and maintaining Web sites under the Mambo Open Source CMS (2006) http://www.fishpond.co.nz/Books/Computers/Internet/Web_Page_Design/product_info/3669602/ And a laughably old one*** Web Publishing with netscape for busy people. (1996) *** I include this one because it may still be useful for anyone wishing to use "SeaMonkey Composer" as the Composer in Seamonkey is practically unchanged from "Netscape Composer". It is so old it was written for Netscape Navigator Gold 3.0 but may be a nice gentle intro for someone using Seamonkey Composer, perhaps even NVu or Kompozer. I'll happily give this away. *** Generally if anyone wants to learn how to use Javascript, PHP, HTML or CSS they need one *up to date* book which may be available online as PDF, perhaps even free. But i prefer one tree reference on each topic as it is just quicker and you can walk away from the keyboard and screen until you are happy. I also use Sitepoints HTML and CSS references ocassionally: http://reference.sitepoint.com/html http://reference.sitepoint.com/css The PHP Manual is available online and has two NZ mirrors http://www.php.net/manual/en/ http://nz.php.net/manual/en/ http://nz2.php.net/manual/en/ And i find Google usefull if done this way: html *** tutorial css *** tutorial Where *** is replaced with the element or tag name as appropriate. Work has the following, which may be viewed at work (Mosaic) by appointment: Windows Server 2008 the Definitive Guide http://www.fishpond.co.nz/Books/Computers/Operating_Systems/Windows/Windows_General/product_info/11713265/ Samba-3 by Example http://www.fishpond.co.nz/Books/Computers/Operating_Systems/Linux/product_info/2410988/ On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 08:30:54 +1200 chris morris wrote: > I have a couple for you Rene > > Linux+ Study Guide, 3rd Edition (XKO-002) > f=pd_bbs_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1215894351&sr=1-3> > > Upgrading and Repairing PCs > =pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1215894506&sr=1-1> > > cheers > chris > > > > Rene Bartosh wrote: > > Evening folks, > > > > Just realised we should take a leaf out of the books (no pun > > intended) of other NZ LUGs and establish a bit of a library. If > > anyone has computer books laying around, I am happy to store them > > all in one place where they are easily accessable. > > > > To start: for my own research needs I am going to buy a copy of > > "Rebel Code" by Glyn Moody - > > http://www.amazon.com/Rebel-Code-Linux-Source-Revolution/dp/0738206709 > > > > Great book on Linux, GNU and the Open Source and Free Software > > movements - I have read it twice already but had to track down > > copies from out-of-town libraries. > > > > I also have "PHP and MySQL for Dynamic Web Sites" by Larry Ullman. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Rene > > > > > > > -- > Chris Morris > > > _______________________________________________ > HBLUG mailing list > HBLUG@linux.net.nz > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 From racepics at paradise.net.nz Thu Jul 17 12:34:27 2008 From: racepics at paradise.net.nz (chris morris) Date: Thu Jul 17 12:35:08 2008 Subject: [hblug] networking help req'd Message-ID: <487E9393.5010409@paradise.net.nz> Ok networking gurus.... I've just purchased a Asus WL-520GC router/access point to run behind my M1122 I want it to serve as a switch/hub ( it has 4x LAN ports, 1x WAN port & Wireless Antenna ) I have set it up as per the install wizard but cannot access interweb through it. The LAN part of it is working fine, as I can reach other PC's around the house. I suspect the issue is something to do with the M1122 and the Asus WL-520GC both trying to run NAT and both trying to authenticate my adsl usename and password. any ideas? -- Chris Morris From kirjava at gmail.com Thu Jul 17 14:33:41 2008 From: kirjava at gmail.com (Rene Bartosh) Date: Thu Jul 17 14:33:45 2008 Subject: [hblug] networking help req'd In-Reply-To: <487E9393.5010409@paradise.net.nz> References: <487E9393.5010409@paradise.net.nz> Message-ID: Hey chris, What you need to do is to a) disable to DHCP server on the asus device b) connect the M1122 to one of the LAN ports rather than the wan port This basically disables any "smarts" that the asus is trying to perform and turns it from a router into a dumb wireless access point which just bridge between your LAN and wireless. Also ensure that you enable security - I would suggest WPA as a minimum. Regards, Rene 2008/7/17 chris morris : > Ok networking gurus.... > > I've just purchased a Asus WL-520GC router/access point to run behind my > M1122 > > I want it to serve as a switch/hub ( it has 4x LAN ports, 1x WAN port & > Wireless Antenna ) > > I have set it up as per the install wizard but cannot access interweb > through it. > The LAN part of it is working fine, as I can reach other PC's around the > house. > > I suspect the issue is something to do with the M1122 and the Asus WL-520GC > both trying to run NAT and both trying to authenticate my adsl usename and > password. > > any ideas? > > -- > Chris Morris > > > _______________________________________________ > HBLUG mailing list > HBLUG@linux.net.nz > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug > -- >From Rene Bartosh (Gmail account) Personal: http://kirjava.net.nz/ Work: http://eksion.net/ From racepics at paradise.net.nz Thu Jul 17 16:25:38 2008 From: racepics at paradise.net.nz (chris morris) Date: Thu Jul 17 16:26:47 2008 Subject: [hblug] networking help req'd In-Reply-To: References: <487E9393.5010409@paradise.net.nz> Message-ID: <487EC9C2.4010903@paradise.net.nz> Thanks Rene - that works (with the RTA1320) With the M1122 it was causing ip address conflicts. cheers chris Rene Bartosh wrote: > Hey chris, > > What you need to do is to a) disable to DHCP server on the asus device > b) connect the M1122 to one of the LAN ports rather than the wan port > > This basically disables any "smarts" that the asus is trying to > perform and turns it from a router into a dumb wireless access point > which just bridge between your LAN and wireless. > > Also ensure that you enable security - I would suggest WPA as a minimum. > > Regards, > > Rene > > 2008/7/17 chris morris : > >> Ok networking gurus.... >> >> I've just purchased a Asus WL-520GC router/access point to run behind my >> M1122 >> >> I want it to serve as a switch/hub ( it has 4x LAN ports, 1x WAN port & >> Wireless Antenna ) >> >> I have set it up as per the install wizard but cannot access interweb >> through it. >> The LAN part of it is working fine, as I can reach other PC's around the >> house. >> >> I suspect the issue is something to do with the M1122 and the Asus WL-520GC >> both trying to run NAT and both trying to authenticate my adsl usename and >> password. >> >> any ideas? >> >> -- >> Chris Morris >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> HBLUG mailing list >> HBLUG@linux.net.nz >> http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug >> >> > > > > -- Chris Morris Racepics Motorsport Photography, Computer Repairs, Websites, 560 Lowe Street Hastings 4120 06 878 3573 021 2537925 http://www.racepics.biz From racepics at paradise.net.nz Thu Jul 17 19:55:50 2008 From: racepics at paradise.net.nz (chris morris) Date: Thu Jul 17 19:56:14 2008 Subject: [hblug] networking help req'd In-Reply-To: <487EC9C2.4010903@paradise.net.nz> References: <487E9393.5010409@paradise.net.nz> <487EC9C2.4010903@paradise.net.nz> Message-ID: <487EFB06.9060400@paradise.net.nz> retract that - it goes for few minutes and drops out. I've read that you can put the modem into "bridge mode"? and let the router to the authentication - but after several tries at that cant get authentication to hook up c chris morris wrote: > Thanks Rene - that works (with the RTA1320) > > With the M1122 it was causing ip address conflicts. > > cheers > chris From kirjava at gmail.com Thu Jul 17 22:53:04 2008 From: kirjava at gmail.com (Rene Bartosh) Date: Thu Jul 17 22:54:00 2008 Subject: [hblug] networking help req'd In-Reply-To: <487EFB06.9060400@paradise.net.nz> References: <487E9393.5010409@paradise.net.nz> <487EC9C2.4010903@paradise.net.nz> <487EFB06.9060400@paradise.net.nz> Message-ID: The bridge mode just means that the modem passes it's WAN ip address and all traffic on to the router. The ADSL authentication is still done on the modem. It shouldn't drop out - make sure that the wireless router is set to use a different address range to the m1122 Rene 2008/7/17 chris morris : > retract that - it goes for few minutes and drops out. > > I've read that you can put the modem into "bridge mode"? and let the router > to the authentication - but after several tries at that cant get > authentication to hook up > > c > > > > chris morris wrote: >> >> Thanks Rene - that works (with the RTA1320) >> >> With the M1122 it was causing ip address conflicts. >> >> cheers >> chris > > > _______________________________________________ > HBLUG mailing list > HBLUG@linux.net.nz > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug > -- >From Rene Bartosh (Gmail account) Personal: http://kirjava.net.nz/ Work: http://eksion.net/ From racepics at paradise.net.nz Thu Jul 17 23:01:27 2008 From: racepics at paradise.net.nz (chris morris) Date: Thu Jul 17 23:02:08 2008 Subject: [hblug] networking help req'd In-Reply-To: <487EFB06.9060400@paradise.net.nz> References: <487E9393.5010409@paradise.net.nz> <487EC9C2.4010903@paradise.net.nz> <487EFB06.9060400@paradise.net.nz> Message-ID: <487F2687.9000405@paradise.net.nz> Ok cant waste any more hours on this. For Sale: Two brand new Asus WL-520GC routers. One still in shrink-wrapped box. Retailing for $129 each at DSE - selling these for $60 each. cheers c chris morris wrote: > retract that - it goes for few minutes and drops out. > > I've read that you can put the modem into "bridge mode"? and let the > router to the authentication - but after several tries at that cant > get authentication to hook up > > c > > > > chris morris wrote: >> Thanks Rene - that works (with the RTA1320) >> >> With the M1122 it was causing ip address conflicts. >> >> cheers >> chris > > > _______________________________________________ > HBLUG mailing list > HBLUG@linux.net.nz > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug > -- Chris Morris Racepics Motorsport Photography, Computer Repairs, Websites, 560 Lowe Street Hastings 4120 06 878 3573 021 2537925 http://www.racepics.biz From jrt746 at clear.net.nz Fri Jul 18 00:41:39 2008 From: jrt746 at clear.net.nz (John Rye) Date: Fri Jul 18 00:51:12 2008 Subject: [hblug] networking help req'd In-Reply-To: <487E9393.5010409@paradise.net.nz> References: <487E9393.5010409@paradise.net.nz> Message-ID: <20080718004139.3e265bc1.jrt746@clear.net.nz> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:34:27 +1200 chris morris wrote: > Ok networking gurus.... > > I've just purchased a Asus WL-520GC router/access point to run behind my > M1122 > > I want it to serve as a switch/hub ( it has 4x LAN ports, 1x WAN port & > Wireless Antenna ) > Hi Chris, attached is a .png which shows the layout I have to do what I think you are trying to achieve. In my case the 'Router' is anything I have to hand (currently Dynalink RTA1320) Cheers John From racepics at paradise.net.nz Fri Jul 18 10:32:49 2008 From: racepics at paradise.net.nz (chris morris) Date: Fri Jul 18 10:34:21 2008 Subject: [hblug] networking help req'd In-Reply-To: <20080718004139.3e265bc1.jrt746@clear.net.nz> References: <487E9393.5010409@paradise.net.nz> <20080718004139.3e265bc1.jrt746@clear.net.nz> Message-ID: <487FC891.2050606@paradise.net.nz> Hi John - the attachment got stripped out - you may need to send it to me directly cheers c John Rye wrote: > Hi Chris, attached is a .png which shows the layout I have to do what I > think you are trying to achieve. > > In my case the 'Router' is anything I have to hand (currently Dynalink > RTA1320) > > Cheers > > John > > _______________________________________________ > HBLUG mailing list > HBLUG@linux.net.nz > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug > > From jackpru at ihug.co.nz Fri Jul 18 11:48:29 2008 From: jackpru at ihug.co.nz (Jack Prucher) Date: Fri Jul 18 11:48:36 2008 Subject: [hblug] Want to backup Kontact Message-ID: <200807181148.29458.jackpru@ihug.co.nz> Hello, I have a question which I try to solve myself but can't seem to get the information yet it should be simple task. I am using Kontact for my emailer and customer base and calendar.. I need to back it up for obvious reasons. I don't want to loose my customer base. Would anyone know how that would be done? I can use a memory stick but it appears that only part of the documentation from my customers is saved, the rest wiped out. Thank you for your time, Jack Prucher Taradale From jackpru at ihug.co.nz Fri Jul 18 11:51:47 2008 From: jackpru at ihug.co.nz (Jack Prucher) Date: Fri Jul 18 11:51:53 2008 Subject: [hblug] Want to backup Kontact In-Reply-To: <200807181148.29458.jackpru@ihug.co.nz> References: <200807181148.29458.jackpru@ihug.co.nz> Message-ID: <200807181151.48046.jackpru@ihug.co.nz> On Friday 18 July 2008 11:48:29 Jack Prucher wrote: > Hello, > > > I have a question which I try to solve myself but can't seem to get the > information yet it should be simple task. I am using Kontact for my > emailer and customer base and calendar.. I need to back it up for obvious > reasons. I don't want to loose my customer base. Would anyone know how > that would be done? I can use a memory stick but it appears that only part > of the documentation from my customers is saved, the rest wiped out. > > Thank you for your time, > > Jack Prucher > Taradale > > _______________________________________________ > HBLUG mailing list > HBLUG@linux.net.nz > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug I forgot to let you know, I have a rewritable disc player and dvd player. Thanks, jack From racepics at paradise.net.nz Fri Jul 18 18:04:28 2008 From: racepics at paradise.net.nz (chris morris) Date: Fri Jul 18 18:04:28 2008 Subject: [hblug] networking help req'd In-Reply-To: <20080718154212.af523733.jrt746@clear.net.nz> References: <487E9393.5010409@paradise.net.nz> <20080718154212.af523733.jrt746@clear.net.nz> Message-ID: <4880326C.4000506@paradise.net.nz> Thanks John thats pretty much what I'm after - just gotta figure out how to configure the WL-520GC to have a different ip from the modem. They're both trying to use 192.168.1.1 Ive tried putting the modem/s into bridge mode and letting the router do the authentication but it wont connect to the net. I think thats because the router uses PPPoE and NZ requires PPPoA ?? It sort of worked (for a while) with Rene's suggestion that I turn off DHCP in the router - but the connection drops out requiring a power off/on of all devices to go again. In the IP-Config section of the router, what would you set WAN connection type to? 1 automatic IP 2 Static IP 3 PPPoE 4 PPPTP WAN DNS setting: Get DNS server automatically? Y/N If no, what IP to enter? LAN IP Setting: currently 192.168.1.1 and 255.255.255.0 Enable DHCP server? Y/N Domain Name _________currently empty IP Pool Starting address: 192.168.1.2 IP Pool Ending address: 192.168.1.254 Lease time: 86400 Default Gateway: _________currently empty DNS & WINS server setting: DNS server1: _________currently empty DNS server2: 192.168.1.1 IP Config Route: Apply to routing table? Y/N (currently no) NAT Setting: Enable Port Trigger? Y/N (currently no) Enable Virtual Server Y/N (currently yes) From jrt746 at clear.net.nz Fri Jul 18 19:17:39 2008 From: jrt746 at clear.net.nz (John Rye) Date: Fri Jul 18 19:17:53 2008 Subject: [hblug] networking help req'd In-Reply-To: <4880326C.4000506@paradise.net.nz> References: <487E9393.5010409@paradise.net.nz> <20080718154212.af523733.jrt746@clear.net.nz> <4880326C.4000506@paradise.net.nz> Message-ID: <20080718191739.8a8142b1.jrt746@clear.net.nz> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:04:28 +1200 chris morris wrote: > Thanks John thats pretty much what I'm after - just gotta figure out how > to configure the WL-520GC to have a different ip from the modem. > They're both trying to use 192.168.1.1 Yes, that IP is default for Both devices BUT ..... it occurs to me that both devices are intended to connect directly to the telephone line. I'm not familiar with the M1122 but I seem to recall it's a pretty old Nokia DSL Router. Did you try leaving the new router at its default settings, connecting it directly to the phone line and then using it's initial setup function to do its thing? I understand that nearly all the adsl modem/routers are smart enough to figure out what you need and basically all you need to input are your username and password Anyway I suggest you need to leave the M1122 as it is. Assess the WL520 setup interface - usually at http://192.168.1.1 - somewhere in there will be options that allow you to tell the device how to authenticate with your ISP - turn this stuff OFF - you're gonna let the M1122 do this. Set the default IP address for the WL520 to a different subnet (in my example I use 192.168.2.1). Set the DNS addresses to the DNS addresses for your ISP - (Paradise use 203.96.152.4 and 203.96.152.12). Now exit the setup interface and restart the router. You should(tm) now be able to access the router setup pages with the new IP address (192.168.2.1). Now, you can do any other fiddling you think is needed, NAT, firewall etc. Once you are satisfied the router is working properly for your INSIDE network/LAN, (you can ping the other machines, ssh into them etc), you can then connect the WAN interface on the WL520 to one of the LAN sockets on the M1122. 1) From one of the LAN machines see if you can still ping the other machines on your LAN. 2) From the same machine see it you can ping the M1122 (192.168.1.1) 3) Can you ping your ISP DNS addresses? (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) 4) Can you ping your ISP by name? (paradise.net.nz) 5) It works? yes/no John From racepics at paradise.net.nz Fri Jul 18 20:22:04 2008 From: racepics at paradise.net.nz (chris morris) Date: Fri Jul 18 20:22:07 2008 Subject: [hblug] networking help req'd In-Reply-To: <20080718191739.8a8142b1.jrt746@clear.net.nz> References: <487E9393.5010409@paradise.net.nz> <20080718154212.af523733.jrt746@clear.net.nz> <4880326C.4000506@paradise.net.nz> <20080718191739.8a8142b1.jrt746@clear.net.nz> Message-ID: <488052AC.9050402@paradise.net.nz> Yes, that IP is default for Both devices BUT ..... it occurs to me > that both devices are intended to connect directly to the telephone > line. I'm not familiar with the M1122 but I seem to recall it's a > pretty old Nokia DSL Router. > Yes - but rock solid - never drops out unlike the RTA-1320 does at random intervals > Did you try leaving the new router at its default settings, connecting > it directly to the phone line and then using it's initial setup > function to do its thing? I understand that nearly all the adsl > modem/routers are smart enough to figure out what you need and > basically all you need to input are your username and password > The WL520 does not have a modem ( and no phone line socket ) its designed to authenticate via LAN to a DSL modem. > Anyway I suggest you need to leave the M1122 as it is. > > Assess the WL520 setup interface - usually at http://192.168.1.1 - > somewhere in there will be options that allow you to tell the device > how to authenticate with your ISP - turn this stuff OFF - you're gonna > let the M1122 do this. > Cant turn it off as such - but options are: 1 Cable Modem or other connection type that gets IP automatically 2 ADSL connection that requires username and password ( PPPoE ) 3 ADSL connection that requires username and password and IP address ( PPTP ) 4 ADSL or other connection that uses static IP address. Doing nothing assumes the top choice. (#1) But I think #4 might be closer to what I want. > Set the default IP address for the WL520 to a different subnet (in my > example I use 192.168.2.1). Set the DNS addresses to the DNS addresses > for your ISP - (Paradise use 203.96.152.4 and 203.96.152.12). > There is nothing in here that says "Default IP address" or anything like that - there are all sorts of places to add IP's depending on what option I choose ( 1-4) above. > Now exit the setup interface and restart the router. > > You should(tm) now be able to access the router setup pages with the > new IP address (192.168.2.1). Now, you can do any other fiddling you > think is needed, NAT, firewall etc. > When I'm connected via one of the LAN ports I can access the setup interface at 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.2.1 (both IPs work) > Once you are satisfied the router is working properly for your INSIDE > network/LAN, (you can ping the other machines, ssh into them etc), you > can then connect the WAN interface on the WL520 to one of the LAN > sockets on the M1122 Yes I can ping other machines that are plugged into the WL520 LAN sockets > 1) From one of the LAN machines see if you can still ping the other > machines on your LAN. > > 2) From the same machine see it you can ping the M1122 (192.168.1.1) > No - 192.168.1.1 takes me to the WL520 ( so does 192.168.2.1) > 3) Can you ping your ISP DNS addresses? (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) > Unreachable > 4) Can you ping your ISP by name? (paradise.net.nz) > ping: unknown host paradise.net.nz > 5) It works? yes/no > > John Sorry - thanks for trying :) From racepics at paradise.net.nz Tue Jul 29 12:41:04 2008 From: racepics at paradise.net.nz (chris morris) Date: Tue Jul 29 12:42:10 2008 Subject: [hblug] Linux? Never heard of it! Message-ID: <488E6720.3070002@paradise.net.nz> An amusing/frustrating observation: I have a client who does online share trading via the New York Stock Exchange. He did this via a clapped out old laptop running WinXP. He came to me for help when his lappy finally karked it due to spyware/viruses et-al I had a refurbished Ubuntu 804 box sitting there and told him to try it. He duly logged into his sharemarket account via Firefox and seemed happy. Until we discovered that the sharemarket people require the execution of a Windows program to actually make any changes in his sharemarket account. I asked my client to inquire whether they had a Linux version (or perhaps a platform independent version ) of the required software. The official reply was..... "Linux? ... Never heard of it! So it seems rather ironic than in order to participate in share market money-shuffling, you must do so using the most insecure OS you can find :) Ever get the feeling we are pushing manure up hill with a pointy stick ? -- Chris From kiwiadam2 at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 15:57:10 2008 From: kiwiadam2 at gmail.com (kiwiadam2) Date: Tue Jul 29 15:57:14 2008 Subject: [hblug] Linux? Never heard of it! In-Reply-To: <488E6720.3070002@paradise.net.nz> References: <488E6720.3070002@paradise.net.nz> Message-ID: <54c74a040807282057l7badf1c4k5d74765096625ca9@mail.gmail.com> Even more ironic: http://www.nytimes.com/idg/IDG_002570DE00740E18002573B100020F62.html and http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/linux/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=207800195 > The official reply was..... "Linux? ... Never heard of it! > > So it seems rather ironic than in order to participate in share market > money-shuffling, you must do so using the most insecure OS you can find :) > > Ever get the feeling we are pushing manure up hill with a pointy stick ? > > -- > Chris > > _______________________________________________ > HBLUG mailing list > HBLUG@linux.net.nz > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.linux.net.nz/pipermail/hblug/attachments/20080729/1999b5ea/attachment.htm From racepics at paradise.net.nz Tue Jul 29 16:06:56 2008 From: racepics at paradise.net.nz (chris morris) Date: Tue Jul 29 16:07:29 2008 Subject: [hblug] Linux? Never heard of it! In-Reply-To: <54c74a040807282057l7badf1c4k5d74765096625ca9@mail.gmail.com> References: <488E6720.3070002@paradise.net.nz> <54c74a040807282057l7badf1c4k5d74765096625ca9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <488E9760.5000401@paradise.net.nz> Which gives us proof that their "consumer tech support" people are computer n00bs who probably read from a script, and have no real knowledge of whats actually going on... c kiwiadam2 wrote: > Even more ironic: > http://www.nytimes.com/idg/IDG_002570DE00740E18002573B100020F62.html > and > http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/linux/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=207800195 > > > The official reply was..... "Linux? ... Never heard of it! > > So it seems rather ironic than in order to participate in share > market money-shuffling, you must do so using the most insecure OS > you can find :) > > Ever get the feeling we are pushing manure up hill with a pointy > stick ? > > -- > Chris > > _______________________________________________ > HBLUG mailing list > HBLUG@linux.net.nz > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > HBLUG mailing list > HBLUG@linux.net.nz > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hblug > From p.spiller at xtra.co.nz Tue Jul 29 21:00:03 2008 From: p.spiller at xtra.co.nz (Perry Spiller) Date: Tue Jul 29 23:01:13 2008 Subject: [hblug] Linux? Never heard of it! In-Reply-To: <488E9760.5000401@paradise.net.nz> References: <488E6720.3070002@paradise.net.nz> <54c74a040807282057l7badf1c4k5d74765096625ca9@mail.gmail.com> <488E9760.5000401@paradise.net.nz> Message-ID: <285889.33597.qm@rel105.mail.aue.yahoo.com> ----------------Earlier, you commented-------------------- >Which gives us proof that their "consumer tech support" people are >computer n00bs who probably read from a script, and have no real >knowledge of what's actually going on... Maybe a few names should've been thrown in? As in distros. Red hat, Suse, Xandros, etc. That may have triggered a cranial avalanche. Perry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.linux.net.nz/pipermail/hblug/attachments/20080729/52511c8a/attachment.htm From kirjava at gmail.com Wed Jul 30 18:58:57 2008 From: kirjava at gmail.com (Rene Bartosh) Date: Wed Jul 30 18:59:01 2008 Subject: [hblug] Old machine to give away Message-ID: Got an old dell optiplex here - 350mhz PII/256mb ram - it runs almost silent so would be a good firewall/gateway machine. Let me know if you want it. Rene -- >From Rene Bartosh (Gmail account) Personal: http://kirjava.net.nz/ Work: http://eksion.net/ From racepics at paradise.net.nz Thu Jul 31 16:52:31 2008 From: racepics at paradise.net.nz (chris morris) Date: Thu Jul 31 16:52:19 2008 Subject: [hblug] Linux Media Centre Message-ID: <4891450F.4090006@paradise.net.nz> Anyone out there using Linux as a media-centre pc to record tv etc? If so what are you using? I've downloaded Mythbuntu and Knoppmyth which are both supposed to be turn-key systems to achieve this, but found both are hideously difficult to setup. Seems you need to be some sort of TV/Video technician to understand the terminology required to fill in 1001 different settings.. So grasping at a very thin straw, I accepted most of the defaults but as expected, that didnt work. Before I am forced to use that 'other OS' to get my mediabox going, has anyone had any success doing it with Linux? cheers -- Chris