[AuckLUG] perst license conflicting statements

[Ravi Chemudugunta]

hi all thanks for the input, I think you are right in that the message on
the web site is a bit misleading. here is the email I got from perst, (this
is addressed from a particular person, although it looks like a typical crm
message so I am going to paste it here)

Hello Ravi,

You recently visited our website and registered to download our dual license
database, Perst(tm) for .NET and/or Perst for Java.

Dual license means that you are free to evaluate (ravi: evaluate???)
Perstfor as long as you need and, because it is open source, you have
the choice
to support yourself or to purchase an annual technical support contract from
us.  Even if you do not purchase a support contract, we encourage you to
report any anomalous behavior you suspect to support at mcobject.com.  You may
also send in technical questions and they will be addressed as time allows
after the support customers' questions.

If you also release your application source code under the GPL, there is no
commercial license needed for Perst.  However if you do not release your
application source code under the GPL, then you must buy a commercial
license from us for deployment for any purpose.  Please contact me or your
local distributor to learn more about a commercial license for Perst.
Thank you for your interest in Perst.

so ... it brings me back to the question ... how much of your application do
you need to publish.., as guy mentioned we aren't so much selling our
application but selling a service which utilizes this: still a bit confused
- i don't want to violate open source ... not sure what to do about it
still...

On 6/1/07, Martin Baehr <mbaehr at email.archlab.tuwien.ac.at> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 02:01:23PM +1200, Guy K. Kloss wrote:
> > http://www.mcobject.com/perst/
> > """
> > McObject Open Source Databases are available under a dual license .
> Under the
> > GPL, you may download and evaluate the source code free of charge and
> you may
> > use McObject Open Source Databases free of charge in a non-commercial
> > application (one that you do not charge money for or that is not used
> > internally by your business,
>
> the GPL does not prohibit internal use.
>
> http://www.mcobject.com/perst/perstlic.shtml
> contains the phrase:
>
> "This General Public License does NOT permit incorporating this software
> into proprietary or commercial programs."
>
> this is simply wrong!
>
> that page contains the complete text of the GPL (and even better, it
> also contains:
>
> "you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms
> of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software
> Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or (at your option) any
> later version. "
> )
>
> so it appears they really mean to use the GPL (and not only pretend by
> having a non-free license and still claiming to be free software)
>
> however, either they do not understand the GPL or those above quoted
> statements are intentionally misleading to make you buy their other
> license.
>
> greetings, martin.
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