Ron - I think the first question you should ask is "what do I want this for?" It is possible to build yourself virtually anything without too many problems. I imported and built my own dual opteron from parts off ebay, and its cheap enough to do that if you are prepared to do some investigative work first, and run the risk of faulty bits. It makes a very good word processor! I've had a good experience with PB Technologies. regards Tess >>> aucklug-request at linux.net.nz 26/10/2006 9:18 a.m. >>> Send AuckLUG mailing list submissions to aucklug at linux.net.nz To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/aucklug or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to aucklug-request at linux.net.nz You can reach the person managing the list at aucklug-owner at linux.net.nz When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of AuckLUG digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Buying New Computer (Ronald Johns) 2. Re: Buying New Computer (tim_oflaherty) 3. Re: Buying New Computer (Peter Hamilton) 4. Re: Buying New Computer (Matthew Diesch) 5. Re: Buying New Computer (Hansel Dunlop) 6. RE: Buying New Computer (John Deverall) 7. RE: Buying New Computer (Patrick Gildea) 8. RE: Buying New Computer (Peter Hamilton) 9. RE: Buying New Computer (Patrick Gildea) 10. Mandriva (Stuart R Mealor) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 12:44:23 +1300 From: Ronald Johns <ronaldj at orcon.net.nz> Subject: [AuckLUG] Buying New Computer To: aucklug at linux.net.nz Message-ID: <453EA557.7030507 at orcon.net.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Can anyone tell me of any companies in N.Z. which sell new computers (desktop & laptop) either with your choice of O/S installed or with no O/S installed ?. Regards all Ron ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 13:04:50 +1300 From: tim_oflaherty <tim_oflaherty at clear.net.nz> Subject: Re: [AuckLUG] Buying New Computer To: Auckland Linux User Group mailing list <aucklug at linux.net.nz> Message-ID: <453eaa22.3a2.2929.19408 at clear.net.nz> I know QMB (www.qmb.co.nz) do good deals, and I think you can specify no OS. ----- Original Message Follows ----- > Can anyone tell me of any companies in N.Z. which sell > new computers (desktop & laptop) either with your choice > of O/S installed or with no O/S installed ?. > > Regards all > Ron > > _______________________________________________ > AuckLUG mailing list > AuckLUG at linux.net.nz > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/aucklug ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:07:28 -0400 (EDT) From: "Peter Hamilton" <peter at hamiltonz.net> Subject: Re: [AuckLUG] Buying New Computer To: "Auckland Linux User Group mailing list" <aucklug at linux.net.nz> Message-ID: <13097.146.171.16.8.1161734848.squirrel at email.powweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Depends on where you are and what you're after at the end of the day. One of the cheapest places to get bits or a whole machine is a place called Supercheap (AKA Global Computers - http://www.supercheappc.biz) ( http://www.supercheappc.biz)/ ) here in Auckland. On http://www.pricespy.co.nz ( http://www.pricespy.co.nz/ ) they constantly have some of the sharpest prices on components (If you were wanting to put the machine together yourself). I've never priced up a system from them. As part of their packages they will install Windows XP I believe. Or you can buy bare bones and install your OS of choice. On Tue, October 24, 2006 7:44 pm, Ronald Johns wrote: > Can anyone tell me of any companies in N.Z. which sell new computers > (desktop & laptop) either with your choice of O/S installed or with no > O/S installed ?. > > Regards all > Ron > > _______________________________________________ > AuckLUG mailing list > AuckLUG at linux.net.nz > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/aucklug > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 13:21:09 +1300 From: "Matthew Diesch" <mdiesch at gmail.com> Subject: Re: [AuckLUG] Buying New Computer To: "Auckland Linux User Group mailing list" <aucklug at linux.net.nz> Message-ID: <c17b7df60610241721x4df6b7ecr55364540de531f1a at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I think you'll have to go self-build. Check prices at www.pricespy.co.nz. I've had good experiences on the shore with playtech and supercheap are always cheap (it's in the name after all) but I know of people having trouble returning faulty gear YMMV. On 25/10/06, Ronald Johns <ronaldj at orcon.net.nz> wrote: > > Can anyone tell me of any companies in N.Z. which sell new computers > (desktop & laptop) either with your choice of O/S installed or with no > O/S installed ?. > > Regards all > Ron > > _______________________________________________ > AuckLUG mailing list > AuckLUG at linux.net.nz > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/aucklug > ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:40:06 +1300 From: "Hansel Dunlop" <hansel at interpretthis.org> Subject: Re: [AuckLUG] Buying New Computer To: "Auckland Linux User Group mailing list" <aucklug at linux.net.nz> Message-ID: <d02031c60610241840t675efe7flff7f4d971aed3c34 at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed PB Technologies <http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?page=sys> do lots of prebuilt systems as well as branded equipment without operating systems. However I second in the recommendation of www.supercheappc.biz. I've had two good experiences walking in there and getting them to put together a system on the spot. They were excellent at letting me know what actually works well with what. Which is handy if you still though, like me, think that graphics cards use AGP slots. Cheers Hansel On 10/25/06, Matthew Diesch <mdiesch at gmail.com> wrote: > > I think you'll have to go self-build. Check prices at www.pricespy.co.nz. > I've had good experiences on the shore with playtech and supercheap are > always cheap (it's in the name after all) but I know of people having > trouble returning faulty gear YMMV. > > On 25/10/06, Ronald Johns <ronaldj at orcon.net.nz> wrote: > > > > Can anyone tell me of any companies in N.Z. which sell new computers > > (desktop & laptop) either with your choice of O/S installed or with no > > O/S installed ?. > > > > Regards all > > Ron > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AuckLUG mailing list > > AuckLUG at linux.net.nz > > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/aucklug > > > _______________________________________________ > AuckLUG mailing list > AuckLUG at linux.net.nz > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/aucklug > ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 15:40:38 +1300 From: "John Deverall" <JohnD at ablazesoftware.co.nz> Subject: RE: [AuckLUG] Buying New Computer To: "Auckland Linux User Group mailing list" <aucklug at linux.net.nz> Message-ID: <E19270C4D57036419164E0DC4D947B8272E0 at tullius.ablazesoftware.co.nz> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="us-ascii" We get all our pc's at work from Ultra computers, www.ultra.co.nz Local supplier, local service, good prices, they know their stuff, they always call you straight back, you can head out to visit them or order over the phone. They burn test their designs first and you don't get the weird randomness, over heating, power supply issues, and other weirdness you can sometimes get when you start sticking disparate parts together either. -----Original Message----- From: aucklug-bounces at linux.net.nz [mailto:aucklug-bounces at linux.net.nz] On Behalf Of Ronald Johns Sent: Wednesday, 25 October 2006 12:44 p.m. To: aucklug at linux.net.nz Subject: [AuckLUG] Buying New Computer Can anyone tell me of any companies in N.Z. which sell new computers (desktop & laptop) either with your choice of O/S installed or with no O/S installed ?. Regards all Ron _______________________________________________ AuckLUG mailing list AuckLUG at linux.net.nz http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/aucklug ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 16:09:43 +1300 From: "Patrick Gildea" <on_a_misson at hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [AuckLUG] Buying New Computer To: aucklug at linux.net.nz Message-ID: <BAY12-F2062217A3C9454E2BF0BBAAA060 at phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed What are you wanting your computer for? I can recommend what the best parts to get would be. At the moment the Intel Core 2 Duo CPUs are the most powerful CPUs on the market by a long shot. And for $300 the E6300 C2D is almost as powerful as the best from AMD FX-62 that costs about $1500. So if you want to get the most power for your buck get the C2D. Just dont get a Mobo with a Intel P965 Chipset because its not supported by the Linux kernel yet. I hope that made sense to you. Im never sure what will make sense all seems like english to me. >From: Ronald Johns <ronaldj at orcon.net.nz> >Reply-To: Auckland Linux User Group mailing list <aucklug at linux.net.nz> >To: aucklug at linux.net.nz >Subject: [AuckLUG] Buying New Computer >Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 12:44:23 +1300 > >Can anyone tell me of any companies in N.Z. which sell new computers >(desktop & laptop) either with your choice of O/S installed or with no O/S >installed ?. > >Regards all >Ron > >_______________________________________________ >AuckLUG mailing list >AuckLUG at linux.net.nz >http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/aucklug _________________________________________________________________ Check out the latest video @ http://xtra.co.nz/streaming ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:38:59 -0400 (EDT) From: "Peter Hamilton" <peter at hamiltonz.net> Subject: RE: [AuckLUG] Buying New Computer To: "Auckland Linux User Group mailing list" <aucklug at linux.net.nz> Message-ID: <36431.146.171.16.8.1161747539.squirrel at email.powweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 I've not run a Linux distro on cutting edge hardware for just the reasons you've mentioned below with the Intel chipset (I run it on a PIII 1.0 GHz and a P4m 1.8 GHz). Well, that and I don't have anything cutting edge I'm not running Windows on *ducks*.... Obviously it depends on what you're wanting to do with the machine, but if it's pretty bulk standard stuff, perhaps you're better off with some older/lower spec hardware as 1) You know Linux *should* support that (Try saying that while refering to wireless with WPA under Ubuntu :-(...) and 2) Should be a bit cheaper. Probably a waste of time going for a C2D and a 386 kernel...:-) Cheers, Peter On Tue, October 24, 2006 11:09 pm, Patrick Gildea wrote: > What are you wanting your computer for? I can recommend what the best > parts > to get would be. > > At the moment the Intel Core 2 Duo CPUs are the most powerful CPUs on the > market by a long shot. > > And for $300 the E6300 C2D is almost as powerful as the best from AMD > FX-62 > that costs about $1500. So if you want to get the most power for your buck > get the C2D. Just dont get a Mobo with a Intel P965 Chipset because its > not > supported by the Linux kernel yet. > > I hope that made sense to you. Im never sure what will make sense all > seems > like english to me. > >>From: Ronald Johns <ronaldj at orcon.net.nz> >>Reply-To: Auckland Linux User Group mailing list <aucklug at linux.net.nz> >>To: aucklug at linux.net.nz >>Subject: [AuckLUG] Buying New Computer >>Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 12:44:23 +1300 >> >>Can anyone tell me of any companies in N.Z. which sell new computers >>(desktop & laptop) either with your choice of O/S installed or with no >> O/S >>installed ?. >> >>Regards all >>Ron >> >>_______________________________________________ >>AuckLUG mailing list >>AuckLUG at linux.net.nz >>http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/aucklug > > _________________________________________________________________ > Check out the latest video @ http://xtra.co.nz/streaming > > > _______________________________________________ > AuckLUG mailing list > AuckLUG at linux.net.nz > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/aucklug > ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 16:46:08 +1300 From: "Patrick Gildea" <on_a_misson at hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [AuckLUG] Buying New Computer To: aucklug at linux.net.nz Message-ID: <BAY12-F1E6ED1A8CE46CE39D809CAA060 at phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed My Core 2 Duo Build cost $1200 I would consider that not to expensive considering how much more powerful it is than the next computer. Its About as powerful as a 6GHz Pentium 4. The Chip rocks :). But it probably is over kill. Considering you can pick up an entire Pentium 4 2.4 GHz for less than $450 with Windows XP Professional licence (Not that we need it) with a 19 inch monitor. Just it may not have a DVD player but DVD players are only $60 max. In some places. Depends what your after and where you look I guess. >From: "Peter Hamilton" <peter at hamiltonz.net> >Reply-To: Auckland Linux User Group mailing list <aucklug at linux.net.nz> >To: "Auckland Linux User Group mailing list" <aucklug at linux.net.nz> >Subject: RE: [AuckLUG] Buying New Computer >Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:38:59 -0400 (EDT) > >I've not run a Linux distro on cutting edge hardware for just the reasons >you've mentioned below with the Intel chipset (I run it on a PIII 1.0 GHz >and a P4m 1.8 GHz). Well, that and I don't have anything cutting edge I'm >not running Windows on *ducks*.... > >Obviously it depends on what you're wanting to do with the machine, but if >it's pretty bulk standard stuff, perhaps you're better off with some >older/lower spec hardware as 1) You know Linux *should* support that (Try >saying that while refering to wireless with WPA under Ubuntu :-(...) and >2) Should be a bit cheaper. > >Probably a waste of time going for a C2D and a 386 kernel...:-) > >Cheers, >Peter > >On Tue, October 24, 2006 11:09 pm, Patrick Gildea wrote: > > What are you wanting your computer for? I can recommend what the best > > parts > > to get would be. > > > > At the moment the Intel Core 2 Duo CPUs are the most powerful CPUs on >the > > market by a long shot. > > > > And for $300 the E6300 C2D is almost as powerful as the best from AMD > > FX-62 > > that costs about $1500. So if you want to get the most power for your >buck > > get the C2D. Just dont get a Mobo with a Intel P965 Chipset because its > > not > > supported by the Linux kernel yet. > > > > I hope that made sense to you. Im never sure what will make sense all > > seems > > like english to me. > > > >>From: Ronald Johns <ronaldj at orcon.net.nz> > >>Reply-To: Auckland Linux User Group mailing list <aucklug at linux.net.nz> > >>To: aucklug at linux.net.nz > >>Subject: [AuckLUG] Buying New Computer > >>Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 12:44:23 +1300 > >> > >>Can anyone tell me of any companies in N.Z. which sell new computers > >>(desktop & laptop) either with your choice of O/S installed or with no > >> O/S > >>installed ?. > >> > >>Regards all > >>Ron > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>AuckLUG mailing list > >>AuckLUG at linux.net.nz > >>http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/aucklug > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Check out the latest video @ http://xtra.co.nz/streaming > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AuckLUG mailing list > > AuckLUG at linux.net.nz > > http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/aucklug > > > > >_______________________________________________ >AuckLUG mailing list >AuckLUG at linux.net.nz >http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/aucklug _________________________________________________________________ Discover fun and games at @ http://xtramsn.co.nz/kids ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 09:17:32 +1300 From: Stuart R Mealor <stuart at learning.ac.nz> Subject: [AuckLUG] Mandriva To: aucklug at linux.net.nz Message-ID: <453FC65C.5000807 at learning.ac.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi everyone I have a project at the moment which involves Mandriva. I would be very interested in hearing from anyone on the list that is experienced with Mandrake/Mandriva - this could be in the areas of installation and set-up, consultancy, support, training, etc. There will be paid contract work to come out of this(!) so any experience in business, sales, marketing, customer service etc. would also be great :-) If you want to reply off list just email me - stuart at learning.ac.nz ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ AuckLUG mailing list AuckLUG at linux.net.nz http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/aucklug End of AuckLUG Digest, Vol 17, Issue 19 ***************************************
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