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From: Steve Wright (paua@quicksilver.net.nz)
Date: Thu 31 Jul 2003 - 14:45:44 NZST


On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 01:02, Wayne Rooney wrote:
> >> Under normal conditions, stringing cat5 a short distance between 2 houses
> on the same distribution transformer would be fine.  Under abnormal
> conditions expect trouble.  Plan for the abnormal conditions.
> >
> >How much of your work was "normal conditions" ?
> 
> That's a bit of a moot question - if you're working 'faults' then abnormal
> conditions is what you see all the time.
> A better question may be "out of a hundred houses, how many will have a
> serious problem regarding electricial supply in a one year period?"  Not
> many.

What I'm getting at is - these homes who have 300 meters of CAT5 strung
around the place - under these abnormal fault conditions you describe,
can you generally say that the cat5 cable will not present a risk
_during_ the fault conditions ?

This is the clincher.  Sure it will be safe 99.999% of the time - almost
anything is.  What about one day when a fault or a strike pushes the
grounds' PD gradient above a safe level for a 300 metre cable ?  How
regularly is *that* going to happen, IYO ?


> >How many of the abnormal conditions could not have been foreseen ?
> 
> I would say 99% of abnormal conditions can be foreseen, and the way they can
> be foreseen would be to figure out all the things that can go wrong: cars
> running into poles, trees falling through power lines, snow snapping lines,
> high wind banging lines together* etc, etc.  The problem is that such
> conditions are statistically unlikely and so are not really taken into
> consideration.  And then they happen.

okay, the risk for the supply authority, and for consumers is not
economically worth lowering any further.  perfectly reasonable.

But what happens when someone strings a 300m wire and takes it into
their living room?  These faults that spot-crank the earth potential
around could (and will) present quite a large voltage in someones'
lounge - enough to break down a tiny 2kv isolator that was not designed
to do that job.  comments ?


/steve






> 
> Wayne
> 
> * I remember one time when it was a bit windy and the power to the whole
> town on Amberley kept going out - got sent up to check it out - had a look
> at the Amberley end, looked ok, drove up to Waipara, looked ok.  So I say to
> the guy I'm with, "Shall we follow the lines across country?"  He says,
> "Nup, we'll sit here for a bit," and pulls out the paper and starts reading
> it.
> 
> Couple of minutes later there's this enormous ZAAAP! and the sky to the
> right lights up.  "There it is," he says.  The wind was blowing the 33kv
> line up into the earthing conductor that was strung along the top to attract
> lightning away from the lines.
> 
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