> Anyone know much about wordprocessing with right-to-left languages? > I believe AbiWord (try 1.99.1, or 2.0 when it is released.. very soon now) supports this, but that you need FriBidi as well. http://www.abisource.com http://sourceforge.net/projects/abiword http://fribidi.sourceforge.net http://farsiweb.info Hope something there helps. Cheers, David. -----Forwarded Message----- From: Tomas Frydrych <tomas@frydrych.uklinux.net> To: abiword-dev@abisource.com Subject: state of bidi Date: 29 Apr 2003 20:29:38 +0100 This is to bring everyone up to speed on the bidi functionality A. STABLE Bidi in stable is badly broken (has been since 1.0.3; my fault entirely), and I have no intention of fixing it; the bidi code is too different from that used in HEAD and I simply do not have the time for this (in addition, the bidi functionality was never working well enough in STABLE for it to be broadly usable). Consequently, I will change status of all bidi bugs filed against stable to 'wont fix' asking the reporters to use HEAD instead. A note to this effect should be added to the download page, which should contain links to the precompiled win32 daily snapshots of HEAD. B. HEAD 1. General Progress A good progress has been made on the development code and the major bugs associated with the new (more efficient) code introduced after 1.0.x have now been fixed (I think and hope); essentially, 2.0 will be a usable bidi wordprocessor. 2. Arabic Support The basic Arabic shaping engine is, thanks to help from a Lebanese user, working reasonably well (basic shaping, two character ligatures, combining diacritics). This should make AbiWord usable for basic Arabic wordprocessing (and hopefully draw more feedback, and perhaps developers in the future). Apart from essential bug fixing, I do not intend to develop the shaping capabilities any further -- this is really a job for a third party library after the 2.0 release. 3. Import/Export a. Text Imp/Exp All our importers can now handle Unicode based explict overrides (although some fixes are still on my list); our text exporters do so as well. Correct export/import of the paragraph direction is not handled yet (next on my list). b. MS Word MS Word importer is getting better, but there are still issues, particularly with importing numbers, which need to be fixed before the 2.0 release (next on my list). c. RTF I am not sure about the state of the RTF imp/exporter, and this needs to be working well for the 2.0 release. C. Unicode Compliance 1. The intention is to follow the the Unicode bidi algorithm as close as possible. With the recently added support for the LRO/RLO/LRM/RLM characters we are nearly there, being somewhere between what the Unicode specs call 'implicit bidirecitonality' and 'full bidirectionality', from the latter we are separated by (2) and (3) below. 2. We do not support LRE/RLE characters, and I do not currently expect this to be in place for 2.0, as this is nowhere near as important as the other outstanding issues, and depends on (3) below. 3. The Unicode algorithm prescribes that the embeding levels have to be resolved on an entire paragraph, prior to line breaking. The lines are then broken and indiviual lines are reordered according to the embeding levels. At present we do line breaking first and then reorder individual lines. This approach is more efficient, since when text is modified we only need to process the affected lines, not the entire paragraph. The only situation in which this sequence would produce different results, AFAIK, is when the text contains LRO/LRE/RLO/RLE characters. Since we do not use LRO/RLO internally, this will only become an issue when implementing the LRE/RLE support. I think the Unicode processing order could be implement with only a small performance loss, but will not know until I try it. It would, however, require a number of changes to block/line/run classes that are likely to introduce a new set of bugs -- I do not want to do this prior to 2.0, to avoid the situation we have with the present STABLE (as far as bidi is concerned, that is). D. Pre-2.0 work Essentially, the bulk of what urgently needs to be done prior to 2.0 is fixing up the imp/exp code, so that at the least text imp/exp, MS Word imp and RTF imp/exp are rock solid. For this I need help from bidi users in testing and bug-filling, so please do not be shy in filling new bugs (please add 'bidi' to the keywords, and make the sample docs as short as possible). Tomas ------------------------------------------------------------------- To remove yourself from this list, email nzlug-request@linux.net.nz with "unsubscribe" in the body of the message.
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