Steve Withers wrote: > On Tue, 2003-07-01 at 09:03, Yuri de Groot wrote: > > > I think telcos have a special status when it comes to digging things > up. They don't need resource consents as far as I know. Anyone know > for sure? yes. They only special status they have is that as a registered network operator, they cannot be stoppped from digging up the road/whatever. But they still have to get a council approval (typically 4 weeks), and the councils will not let a road be opened and closed continously (they make you wait 1-2months after the last dig.) > > But there is an interesting problem: Many / most neighbourhoods want > underground wiring - which is vastly more expensive to install and > maintain. Correct. The VDSL stuff is (IMHO) a likely solution to most of this. same range as ADSL, but 50-80Mbits/sec both directions. It is currently lab stuff. The telco's hate it, as VDSL in the cable bunches interfere furiously with other services, and the existing voice/E1 stuff. And it means tossing out all the crappy ATM equipment and being an ethernet telco, which none of the telco's really want to be... (if you have really inexpensive equipment, how can you justify really expensive prices... - shades of the music business) > > In Wellington, it didn't help that the local newspaper owned shares in > SKY TV (as did Telecom). > > They ran a campaign against the cabling....which in my eyes set new lows > in overt conflict of interest. > > But it is expensive to lay the cable....and that's why TelstraClear > isn't laying any more..... > > They wanted access to Telecom's local loop.....but the regulatory > changes didn't give it to them. > But Mr Douglas Webb is very likely to unbundle the local loop, the second puzzle is to be able to run other (really fast) stuff on it. If the local loop is unbundled, why can't you attach your own VDSL modems to each end and go for it. The reason is the VDSL stuff interferes with the existing stuff and the telco will make much less money from you, which to everyones astonishment, they are not keen on, and will invent all sorts of obstacles to prevent you doing it.... Legal, regulatory, technical, rubbish, FUD..... -- \_ Roger De Salis rdesalis@fx.net.nz </' FX Networks +64 25 481 452 /) Wellington, New Zealand roger@desalis.gen.nz (/ ` Bentley win Le Mans! - What next, English win cricket in Aus? ------------------------------------------------------------------- To remove yourself from this list, email nzlug-request@linux.net.nz with "unsubscribe" in the body of the message.
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